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The storming 80 year olds.

Discussion in 'Personal' started by felltogroundinberkeleysquare, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. felltogroundinberkeleysquare

    felltogroundinberkeleysquare Established commenter

    I was sitting quietly at Bat Towers yesterday, and my eighty odd (on the Parish Council) neighbour called to ask me to feed Matilda the cat whilst he was away storming Paris with a group of what I presume were veterans about migration. Apparently, they all set off through the tunnel this morning to meet some UK minister out there. So what do they know I don't?

    I lacked the courage to ask whether he was objecting or supporting the present migration crisis, however, we discussed the migration issues of WW2.

    What with Jeremy being the new Labour leader, and now this, I am wondering if we aren't having an OAP revolution of some kind, never mind the "young ones"? Its the "old ones" who seem to be getting around. He said he was staying at the YMCA overnight yesterday... so that tells you all you need to know.
     
  2. xena-warrior

    xena-warrior Star commenter

    Being of a certain age does not define voting preference.
     
  3. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    It certainly doesn't, xena. One of my eldest residents is a Welsh gentleman from Newport, aged 93. If I can retain my marbles the same way he's been able to, if and when I reach his age, life will be tolerable.

    We were chatting the other day when he told me he was off to collect his newspaper. I said as a joke "That'll be the Financial Times then". He made as if to spit, then told me he'd bought the Mirror all his life. "Labour man then?" I asked.

    "I'd be stupid not to be, wouldn't I?" he replied, then told me a little about his childhood in the 1920s recession which sounded a bit on the tough side. "Best thing that ever happened to the country was when Labour came to power. You can't imagine how desperate life was like before it."

    I asked what he thought about the new Labour leader and was told it's what the party needed and long overdue. Something worth voting for again, he added.

    As an aside, he's the most liked resident in the community. I've been trying to work out exactly why. It isn't just that he's a likable bloke with a sharp wit and great sense of humour. He's always the first to pick up on residents who need a bit of help. He looks out for his neighbours like a true socialist.
     
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  4. xena-warrior

    xena-warrior Star commenter

    Was his first name by any chance "Jim"?
     
  5. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    I have no idea whether he still uses the name his mother gave him. He isn't known as Jim though.
     
  6. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    Age is just a number Xena, they used to say that the older a person was the further to the political right they moved. I have been sliding further to the left for a number of years now, I wonder how many others have?
     
  7. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    At 60 I'm just as left-wing as ever, possibly more so, and so is my 90 year old Dad. The more life experience I have the more intolerant of injustice I am.
     
  8. coffeekid

    coffeekid Star commenter

    My mother (in her 60s) is far more left wing than she's ever been in her life. She voted for Thatcher, back in the day...
     
  9. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    I went to my first Labour meeting last week. I have voted Labour many times but never been an 'activist' as such. Maybe I'll start now. I am 60. And 38 days.
     
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  10. T34

    T34 Lead commenter

    What makes you think that the left-wing will decrease injustice?

    Everyone is against injustice, but some realise it is a zero sum game. Get rid of it in one place and it tends to pop up again somewhere else
     
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  11. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    @T34 Interesting thesis.

    [​IMG]

    Somewhat defeatist though.
     
  12. felltogroundinberkeleysquare

    felltogroundinberkeleysquare Established commenter

    Indeed, thanks for the replies: we must not forget the older generation actually have talents and experience even for those of us in our fifties or sixties to learn. Still, I went to collect Fred's laundry today, cause the laundrette is closing, and a very abrupt OAP told me he hadn't done it cause he was closed now. Everything is relative. Still, I have run Fred's through my washing machine and tumble dryer, so I expect I have done my job. I hope he is bringing me back a croissant?

    How do these folk in their late 80's manage without such things as washing machines? Some time this Autumn we have to transplant a sapling oak tree from outside his front door onto the village green, which is, I think, a statement of his long life in the parish, and because the type of tree rhymes with his surname!

    Still, spotted a business opportunity at the same time ( not laundry).
     
  13. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Well, in my young day you didn't wash your clothes as often. I'm sure I wore the same outfit for a week straight.

    My wife can wear three different tops in a single day! And change her kecks! And slings them in the machine!

    What's that about? I disapprove. We wash our clothes far too much. Very wasteful of water.
     
  14. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    Because the rich having more and the poor having less doesn't really work for me.
     
  15. BobbyPhilips

    BobbyPhilips Established commenter

    There is not a fixed amount of wealth. One does not cause the other. Making a rich man poor does not make a poor man rich.
     
  16. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    I think you may be right T34, in the event that it is correct, do you advocate doing nothing?
     
  17. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    It depends on what you call wealth BP. Our national wealth is relatively stable, it is the 'created from nowhere' money that clouds the issue IMO.
    QE has worked for the very wealthy and for large (mainly) financial institutions and Corporations, it has not worked for the poor or even the middle classes.
     
  18. BobbyPhilips

    BobbyPhilips Established commenter

    in the context of the post I was replying to. As it is, inequality has reduced in the last 7 years or so
     
  19. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    Really?
    The evidence of my eyes says not.
     
  20. jacob

    jacob Lead commenter

    This is an utterly false spurious argument. Nobody is suggesting that the wealthy have all their money taken away and given to the non-wealthy. This is a JK/Auty argument, of ridiculous proportions. It is pure and simple baiting.
     
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