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The Queen at 90

Discussion in 'Personal' started by BelleDuJour, Mar 27, 2016.

  1. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    Astonishing woman......really she is.
    Wouldn't swap places with her for anything, but she continues to do a stirling job for the country.
     
  2. stupot101

    stupot101 Established commenter

    I am unable to work out if you are being sarcastic or serious!
     
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  3. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    Whatever one might feel about royalty, you have to admit she's remarkable for 90.
     
  4. vannie

    vannie Star commenter

    Astonishing? The best healthcare, good food and all the money in the world. Yes it's astonishing how she's managed to get away with it for so long. And please don't tell me that she works hard. Because I will just laugh.
     
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  5. smoothnewt

    smoothnewt Star commenter

    She has given consistently good leadership and service to this country over the past sixty years, and contributes massively to our stability as a nation.
    As a role model for the nation we couldn't ask for better.
     
  6. vannie

    vannie Star commenter

    I get the figurehead thing. I get that the pomp and tradition is attractive to those who like that kind of thing and Americans. I get that. But leadership? If saying nothing very interesting and wearing expensive clothing is leadership then I'll eat my cloth cap. Sorry.
     
  7. recently retired

    recently retired New commenter

    What exactly has she got away with? I will tell you that she does work hard. And you may laugh all you like. In my book, anyone who has tirelessly attended functions year after year after year for the benefit of the nation and with little freedom to have a private life of her own, is a star to be applauded. I'd like to see you do even a fraction of what she does when you're 90. Could you tell us why you wear a cloth cap? And does the wearing of it mean that you have not enjoyed good food and adequate health care throughout your life? Attack the monarchy all you like, you cannot deny the fact that the queen is much revered both here and abroad. I am full of admiration for her achievements.
     
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  8. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    There's an exchange that takes place in this house from time to time, it goes a bit like this:

    Mrs. M. - Doesn't she look good for her age?!

    Me - Well if she doesn't look good for her age, then god help the rest of us, she's had a easy life free of worry and strife, the best of everything and if she doesn't like someone she can just ignore them.

    (to be honest I don't think Mrs. M. hears any of my reply at all)

    Having said that, I find myself to have become a royalist as I've grown older, the practicalities and advantages of having a royal family allow me to overlook the inherent unfairness of the situation. Why is it that wealthy people are always made out to work soooo hard? As if no-one else does, I think it's to cover what should be embarrassment at getting so much for so little.
     
  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Living proof socialism can work.
     
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  10. vannie

    vannie Star commenter

    My goodness! Tirelessly attending functions year after year. When I compare her achievements to those of my grandad who hacked coal out if the ground for 40 years, lost an eye in the service of his country and died at the age of 74? Well I can see that she has done sterling work. Well done queenie.
     
  11. bonkers 704

    bonkers 704 Lead commenter

    I am left-wing and would eventually like to see an elected Head of State and a United Republic, rather than Kingdom. However, I respect the Queen enormously. In her role it is absolutely vital that she retains political neutrality and for the vast majority of her astoundingly long reign she has done just that. The nearest she has come to breaching neutrality is when nasty and stupid Conservative politicians like David Cameron (reporting her reaction to the independence referendum result) and Michael Gove (her opinion of Brexit) have chosen to breach her confidentiality. It would be grossly disrespectful and ungrateful to abolish the monarchy while she is alive, but perhaps the monarchy should die with Queen Elizabeth II.
     
  12. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    I can never let a comment like that pass without saying that hard work is a relative phrase. I don't doubt that the Queen fulfills her duties with the utmost devotion and care and in truth, ought to have been able to retire at a sensible age, but is it really hard work as in hard work? When people suggest to me that being driven to an event, shaking a few hands and cutting a ribbon is hard work, I seriously wonder whether they've ever done a day's hard work themselves.

    There's a cleaner I know who starts at 5:00am cleaning offices or whatever the cleaning company send her to clean, has a couple of breaks to get her kids to and from school and isn't usually finished until 9:00pm. She look knackered, but she cleans well all the same.She has to work the long hours because the pay is dire and I guess that's all she can do, or more probably, is trapped in that job because she's being kept so busy by her employer, she doesn't have the chance to look for something better she could do to earn the same money she needs to pay the rent to keep a roof over her kids' head.

    Are these the sort of hours the Queen works?
     
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  13. JosieWhitehead

    JosieWhitehead Star commenter

    Well we've certainly had many kings and queens over the ages, but I think that if I had to choose whose reign I would like to live through, it would be the reign of our present royal family. They have a role to play, and it might not be that of a coal worker or a cleaner, but they perform their role in this life well. She's a really nice lady.
     
  14. foxtail3

    foxtail3 Star commenter

    Since I assume none of us have ever, or are ever, likely to be in the Queen's situation, we cannot really judge how difficult or easy her job is and her life has been.

    Leaving aside the fact that it's the royal family, she is someone who lost her father at an early age, having very recently married. She has seen three of her four children have turbulent personal lives.

    Whether or not you agree with the monarchy, whether or not you feel she works hard, as a mother, wife and daughter, she must have struggled with those events, as well as conducting a life in the public eye.

    And yes, plenty of people deal with difficult life events, but not all have to do it so publicly.
     
  15. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Wonder if that has something to do with the way she brought them up...?
     
  16. anotherauntsally

    anotherauntsally Lead commenter

    Not that recently married - two of her children were born some time before her father died.
     
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  17. lindenlea

    lindenlea Star commenter

    I think if i knew more about her I'd probably not like her much but I like seeing her out and about as a celebrity. Her position as monarch doesn't really stand up to close examination - it really is a bit crazy, but I can't help being pleased when she looks well, when she marches up steps without an arm to support her, when she wears something stylish. I'm shallow.
     
  18. aspensquiver_2

    aspensquiver_2 Senior commenter

    Sterling job?
     
  19. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    I watched much of this. I know that no-one is ever going to criticise her on this type of programme, but listening to the endless fawning comments made me think that this must be how it feels if you're North Korean and all you hear about Kim Jong-Un is that he can raise the dead, etc.

    They keep saying of the Queen that she's so good at talking to people, but every time I've ever seen film of her meeting someone for the first time it's toe-curlingly awful. I don't much like Prince Charles, but he is so much better at talking to people than his mother is.
     
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  20. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    She has a little snippet to say, I suppose the trick is in saying something to each one, a bit like a good headteacher who knows loads of the kids even if they don't teach them or come into contact hardly ever.

    I saw something on the tv once, she shakes hands with people and then when she's done, she pushes their hand back at them which seems very rude to me. It's a job I suppose and she can't let anyone try to grab more time than they are due.

    I suspect the whole staying out of things and being regal is as much a case of doesn't really give a s**t what people think about her and she doesn't care much about what doesn't affect her, which is most things.
     

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