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The problem with teaching...........

Discussion in 'Personal' started by BelleDuJour, Oct 19, 2017.

  1. LadyPsyche

    LadyPsyche New commenter

    I wonder how many of us said the exact same thing at the time? Lots I expect.
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  2. Jolly_Roger1

    Jolly_Roger1 Star commenter

    Infuriatingly, this demand for 'evidence of everything' is unidirectional, from SMT to those of us on the 'chalk face', never the other way around. When the SMT foists yet another time-consuming, pointless, sometimes career-jeopardising, initiative on us, or gets some con-man of a CPD trainer to do it for them, they never produce any evidence as to their reason for doing so, or even any benefits it is supposed to have. Indeed, anyone who has the temerity to put that question to them is putting a target on their own foreheads.
  3. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Indeed. Where they (consultants) do provide "evidence" it is secondary in nature and not investigated in context to any depth because it forms a quick fix bandaid of buzzwords without the longer term concerns being taken into consideration.
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  4. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    Isn't it just.
    And if I enter a slightly lower 'grade' for each student then the chances are they may do better and I might look 'good'.
    We did this in my last school and called it 'fudge factors'.
  5. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    All just a big game... oh 25% of them need to be under-performing, 25% over performing, 50% need to be within target ...

  6. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    Buzzwords, acronyms.....and 'edubabble'.
    Don't get me started on that :mad:
    DIRT tasks
    Learning walks
    Value added

    And the rise in students 'diagnosed' with various disorders together with the rise in said disorders and if I had a pound for each and every one I'd be rich indeed.
    W T F is 'oppositional defiance disorder'? In my day it was a child who didn't do as they were told. Simple.
    Don't get me wrong......I have no problem with genuine learning disorders but it seems these days every child who does something different is classified with a learning disorder.
    We have to hand out merits for a child who manages to sit still for more than a nanosecond, yet have no sanctions.
    I despair.............this is not what I bought into when I trained as a teacher.

    Oh yes.....and that PM target I had once of 'every lesson to be outstanding' :p:p:p:p:confused:

    *checks out vacancies in John Lewis*
  7. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    I do hope you aren't, as is allegedly common nowadays, questioning the opinions of experts........ ;):D

    The problem with the original question is not that we struggle to know where to start but where to finish.....:(
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  8. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    ''Support programme'' [and not in any way a string of fiery hoops for you to leap through which even when successfully completed will suddenly unveil an unseen hoop which will be used to justify the knives you just found in your back while they smile]
  9. rosievoice

    rosievoice Star commenter

    You beat me to it, Frank.
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  10. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    Then there's professional snooping aka 'learning walks' and 'work scrutiny'.
    Nothing to do with the students' learning or progression......just a net to trawl in evidence the teacher in not doing his/her job properly. It's NEVER to show how well the teacher is doing his/her job or how hard he/she is working.
    I got hauled over the coals once last year because, on return to work from broken ankle, a student's folder did not contain all her work. I was deemed at fault for not teaching properly when it was her fault for ripping the work out and not filing it correctly. I could prove this as I had records of my teaching, and folders from her classmates but no, it was all my fault.
  11. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    I suppose the best example I can give now is that, in spite of the life changing problems I have had over the past decade or so, there is the silver lining to them in that they prevented me from continuing to teach.
    I'm almost grateful for that
  12. Jolly_Roger1

    Jolly_Roger1 Star commenter

    Intervention used to drive me crackers. During lessons, I would have students trooping in and out, either on their way to, or on their way back from, some 'intervention' session. It seemed ludicrous to miss out on one core subject to do extra sessions in another.

    I never understood what 'value-added' actually meant, as it always seemed to be something you were censured for not providing, but never given credit for it when you did.

    SMT: "Student 'X' failed to meet his target C grade, i notice."
    Me: "He did improve from an F to a D over the course of the year, and he barely spoke English when he arrived."
    SMT: "That may be so but since it is not quantifiable, it is irrelevant to my point of why he did not achieve a C."
  13. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    @josienig may supply more words if she escaped Ophelia.
    When boyhood's fire was in my blood
    I read of ancient freemen,
    For Greece and Rome who bravely stood,
    Three hundred men and three men;
    And then I prayed I yet might see
    Our fetters rent in twain,...
  14. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    But 'research shows...', as they say. I ended up at one meeting when our reptilian brains were being given an outing telling the training people that I most certainly didn't have a reptilian brain. I told them that I would brook no argument on the matter after 200,000,000 years of divergent evolution.
  15. lapinrose

    lapinrose Lead commenter

    Well said Belle, I am so glad I retired when I did. I still teach but in EFL, much more enjoyable and I enjoy the work.
  16. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    We have entered a world where SOMEONE is to blame for something. It’s no longer an era when kids actually take responsibility for their own actions and we say “they are just kids” and don’t know what they are doing so the people in charge must know and guide them so if they fail then it’s naturally their fault....:eek: but then when they do well, they have worked really hard and followed the syllabus well and NO credit to the teacher because he/she has just realised the targets set and did it all on his/her own. Intervention/support lessons/revision periods are just detentions for the weaker kids,in the main, that gave no effect from the evidence. In fact there is no evidence they work. We are part of a society, which Blair encouraged, that the consumer or the stakeholders (in this case children) are always more important than the provider (in this case the teachers). We are down a road where there is no turning back. That’s why many are leaving, retiring early or just not joining in the first place. Is it a vocation? Not any more.
  17. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    I'm not sure I care anymore. We have to be realistic... there's more to life.
  18. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    The thing is we DO care.
    That is why we are posting on here.
  19. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Too much perhaps and certainly more than many students, some parents and the Govt. There is a danger that as teachers we get obsessed with the intricate details of providing an education and forget what it's for, what our role is and that there is in fact more to life... like ... well... life!
  20. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Sorry which question?

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