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The name "India"

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Corvuscorax20, Aug 23, 2020.

  1. Corvuscorax20

    Corvuscorax20 Senior commenter

    I normally just make appreciative noises when someone tells me the name of their new baby, or soon-to-be-born baby. But this gives me some concerns. The name has been chosen because it "represents beauty and mysticism" - but does it? Or does it simply propagate a fairly racist ethnic stereotype? I am not normally bothered about looking for offense, but we are talking about a child's name here, something she will be using to introduce herself, and to respond to for the next 90 years, possibly, and I am not sure whether it will be a politically acceptable name for the next 90 years.

    What are your thoughts?

    My cousin's baby, incidentally, due late September/early October. No Indian connections
     
  2. colacao17

    colacao17 Lead commenter

    I know an India, now in her late 20s. Never took it to have any sinister connotations.
     
  3. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    Been used as a name for quite a while Mountbatten ‘s granddaughter(?) comes to mind. I’m sure there others too. Not aware that anyone’s expressed concern in the past.
     
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  4. sparklepig2002

    sparklepig2002 Star commenter

    I taught a little girl called India in the 90s. Never gave it a second thought.
     
  5. Nellyfuf2

    Nellyfuf2 Lead commenter

    Australia just has not caught on.
     
  6. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    Nice name, I can't think of any racist connotations at all.
    As for choosing the name as representing beauty and mysticism? Perhaps a stereotypical way of imagining the country, but not in a racist way and well in keeping with many Indian views of their country.
     
  7. Corvuscorax20

    Corvuscorax20 Senior commenter

    because it is not seen as "exotic" and "other" by white brits.

    Am I being sensible, or over reacting to have reservations about this name? Should I say something?
     
  8. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    You’re over reacting.
    What would you say about someone called Islay with no connection to the island .Maybe her parents saw it as representing beauty, peace and a rural idyll. ( inhabitants might think otherwise)
    Not to mention all those people of my generation called Elizabeth - is that offensive because of the classist or monarchical overtones or delusions of grandeur ?
     
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  9. Corvuscorax20

    Corvuscorax20 Senior commenter

    Is it? I don't know any Indians who describe their country as that.

    "Filthy, harsh, dynamic, forward thrusting, energetic, unhygienic, scientific, economically sound, poverty stricken, hot, young"

    These are all words I have recently heard Indians used to describe India. Not such aspirations for a baby, maybe?
     
  10. Nellyfuf2

    Nellyfuf2 Lead commenter

    Hernia is a lot worse.
     
  11. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    No.
    That view only betrays the fact of your own limitations in experience. The name India is pretty well known, for example, the journalist India Knight. And going back in time I'm pretty sure there was an India in Gone with The Wind. And I too have friends with children/young adults called India. Chances are, somebody called India is reading this thread and scratching their head at your question.
    People can call their kids what they like, although naming your child, say, "Stockton-on Tees" is probably a relatively poor choice.
     
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  12. Corvuscorax20

    Corvuscorax20 Senior commenter

    Any Indian nationals here have any reaction?

    I am not sure how I would feel about visiting a foreign country and finding children called "England" because we are seen as sweet or appealing in some way
     
  13. colacao17

    colacao17 Lead commenter

    You're worrying over the name 'India' while suggesting other parents see names as 'exotic' and 'other'?
    You've got several posters here telling you 'India' is not that unusual a name and yet you're determined to see it as such?

    Go get some rest. It might look dfferent tomorrow.
     
  14. Corvuscorax20

    Corvuscorax20 Senior commenter

    Inexperience of people being called "India" do you mean? I am aware it has been used in the past, but I would have expected it not to be acceptable in the modern climate. Maybe I am wrong
     
  15. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    i don’t know how many Indians you know but there could well be a variety of views among the 1,380,000, 000 others.

    I’m assuming you haven’t surveyed them all.
     
  16. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    Roger's daughter India Waters and of course "no sleep til Brooklyn".
     
  17. Corvuscorax20

    Corvuscorax20 Senior commenter

    well, I was told the name some weeks ago, and have just been growing more uneasy ever since.
     
  18. Corvuscorax20

    Corvuscorax20 Senior commenter

    I am sure there is huge variation of views, but I am uncomfortable with the view that it is a "cute" or "mysterious" place, as defined by white Brits.
     
  19. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    Well here’s one Brit that does.
    I don’t think you can generalise a whole nation from your circle of acquaintances.
     
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  20. Dunteachin

    Dunteachin Star commenter

    I knew a lad called Indiana.
     

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