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The Moon landings

Discussion in 'Personal' started by lanokia, Jul 10, 2019.

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Do you accept the USA landed man on the moon on July 20th 1969?

  1. Yes

    54 vote(s)
    91.5%
  2. No

    5 vote(s)
    8.5%
  3. ALIENS!

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Other

    0 vote(s)
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  1. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    With July 20th being the 50 year anniversary of the lunar landings the Guardian has this piece on the growing belief that it was all faked.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science...ople-still-think-the-moon-landings-were-faked

    Now the numbers are still a minority but got me wondering how many on here accept it happened?

    Personally I put the growth of this down to the idea of constant progress... young people will look at what we can do now and what their grandparents generation managed to achieve and because of the idea that we are always progressing, they'll assume it must be a lie. Obviously they're wrong... but I can understand why....
     
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  2. SparkMaths

    SparkMaths Occasional commenter

    The Earth is flat so obviously the Moon landings were faked since they "took" a photo of a round Earth! ;)
     
  3. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    When did the doubting start? I vaguely remember hearing with some astonishment that some thought they were faked, but I was well into adulthood at the time and it must have been at least 20 years after the event.

    I imagine such doubts are about making the doubter feel clever and better than everyone else as they have seen the truth unlike the "sheeple".
     
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  4. 50sman

    50sman Senior commenter

    The doubtIn started when the film Capricorn one came out
    The plot was about Americans trying to cover up fake mars mission after the dummy craft crashed in reentry

    People then thought the premise of the film was correct and the lunar landings were faked.
     
  5. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

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  6. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    I suspect there is a whiff of that too... that they've seen behind the curtain at Old Man McGillcuddy and his magic moon-landing-faking-machine and now speak a high truth.

    But also the internet does allow disparate types to coalesce together ... each finding solace that they aren't alone in their 'odd' beliefs.
     
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  7. Oldfashioned

    Oldfashioned Senior commenter

    Conspiracy theories are fun I suppose. I, however, am confident man walked on the moon.
     
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  8. bmajor

    bmajor New commenter

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  9. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    I watched a good programme on this a couple of years ago. Much of the evidence was based on photographs and videos published by NASA after the live event.

    The evidence that some photographs were faked was quite strong - but (IMO) seemed could be more like crude editing to perhaps overcome bad shots or environmental issues (e.g clouds of dust hovering for a couple of hours). Hence the famous straight flag, ‘impossible’ camera angles and conflicting reflections. But (also IMO) none of this remotely came close to proving that the event never took place.

    The trouble with conspiracy theorists, is that in their desire for the exotic, they are too keen to overlook the mundane and obvious.
     
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  10. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Conspiracy theorists are guided by three main beliefs: nothing happens by accident; everything is connected; and nothing is as it seems. If that’s their view of the world, then to them appearances cannot be trusted. There has to be some 'hidden reality' and links (fatuous links to those with open minds) that 'have to be exposed'.

    It is basically a psychological disjunction between reality and belief.
     
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  11. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    How can anyone refute an argument so well founded in logic.
     
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  12. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    We seem to have lost a hollow Earth and hollow Sun.
     
  13. EmanuelShadrack

    EmanuelShadrack Star commenter

    So far there's one vote for "No".

    Come on, own up. Who did that? Jenkins was it you? I can stay here all day you know.

    By coincidence (no, not coincidence, it must have been "them"), I was watching this yesterday (excuse the ad at the start):



    It mentions the oft-omitted fact that the mission was monitored the whole time by the Soviets. If anyone were to claim the whole thing was a hoax, it surely would have been them. Oddly enough they didn't.
     
  14. EmanuelShadrack

    EmanuelShadrack Star commenter

    Well think for a moment, where were you when you last had them?

    [and the obvious reply: "if I knew that, I'd clucking well go and fetch them wouldn't I?"]
     
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  15. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    Yebbut, they were in on the whole thing too, "Sputnik" was actually some Russian agents driving round in a Trabant while one of them went "beep, beep, beep" through a megaphone out of the window. The plot is wider and deeper than anyone but me knows about.
     
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  16. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    I watched that one too. He's not a bad presenter.
     
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  17. EmanuelShadrack

    EmanuelShadrack Star commenter

    Oh yes, of course.

    I'd best not say any more. They're already spying on me.
     
  18. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    Ok, ok ok-it was me.
    But not without reason.
    It's the Maths behind a poorly constructed lie you see.
    Namely that last year I went on a four week trip to Tashkent, and whilst there i allowed at least thirty photos to be taken of me beside various landmarks and interesting things , because that is what you do when you go somewhere far away and new and exciting.
    Neil Armstrong purportedly went as far as the moon (in the region of 73 times as far away as Tashkent) yet only claimed to have had five taken instead of the expected 2,190.
    Shot himself in the foot with that one.
     
  19. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    They went to the Moon without doubt. A hoax would have needed to compliance of tens of thousands of people. It is inconceivable that by now at least one of them would have blown the secret.
     
  20. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    That's always the element that pulls these things apart... that a hoax would need such widespread compliance from a vast array of people...

    Flat Earth has to be even worse. Then again...

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