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The house renovation and repair cost thread

Discussion in 'Personal' started by dumpty, Aug 4, 2020.

  1. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

    There was a good and helpful thread recently about the cost of a new bathroom and so with that in mind, I thought this thread might help those who want to know what others know from experience about costs and such.

    Here is my starter:

    Does anyone know how much it costs to have an asbestos roof removed from a garage?

    (The house was built in the 70s I think, when a garage was brick walls barely a few inches wider than the car and a full asbestos roof)

    Anyone know some real prices?
     
  2. BillyBobJoe

    BillyBobJoe Lead commenter

    Nope, but if you follow the rules and it's you're own garage you can do it yourself. We were quoted north of 5k for some asbestos removal and decided we could purchase the PPE, specialised vacuum cleaner, disposal bags et al and do it ourselves and be sure it had been done properly for less than 1k.
     
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  3. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    With regard to the cost, try this https://householdquotes.co.uk/asbestos-removal-cost/

    From the internet...
    Dismantling asbestos yourself

    There are many different types of asbestos and most must be removed by a licensed contractor. Cement bonded asbestos is the only asbestos material which can be removed by a house holder. This is typically found as corrugated roofing or flat sheets to garages and sheds.

    If you decide to remove these structures yourselves, here are some handy tips to help.

    Do's
    1. Keep others away from the work area.
    2. Where possible, work out of doors.
    3. Keep the surfaces of the boards wet, but avoid any possibility of water coming into contact with electrical supplies or appliances.
    4. Where possible remove the sheets whole. Avoid breaking up the material.
    5. Where sheets are held in place by bolts, spring-headed nails or other fixings, try to crop the heads of the fixing and lift the sheets clear, rather than try extracting the fixing or break the sheet around the fixing.
    6. Wear overalls, preferably disposal overalls, if not ensure you wash them after work. In some cases you may be advised to wear respiratory protection. Ensure you use only the type specified - some masks on sale to the public are not effective for this purpose.
    7. Lay polythene sheeting on the floor and on horizontal surfaces which cannot be hosed and washed down (e.g. indoors). Dispose of the sheeting with the asbestos waste.
    8. Smaller pieces should be placed in a bag or polythene sack as soon as they are removed. All asbestos should be wrapped in strong polythene.
    9. Clean all surfaces around the work area using a damp cloth or by hosing and sweeping. Dispose of the used cloths with the asbestos waste.
    10. Wash your hands before eating or smoking. Wash your hands, face and hair after completing the work and removing your overalls.
    Don'ts
    1. Don't use any power tools on any asbestos material.
    2. Don't use dry abrasive processes on asbestos materials (e.g. sanding, sawing, wire brushing etc..).
    3. Don't use a domestic vacuum cleaner to clean up. They spread the fibres rather than contain them.
    4. Don't carry asbestos through your home if you can avoid it.
    5. Don't worry - these simple precautions are all you require to safe guard yourself and those around you.
    The waste should be dampened with water, wrapped in strong polythene or bagged, and sealed.

    Council Recycling Centres DO NOT accept asbestos of any description.

    Details of Licensed sites can be obtained from the Environment Agency on 08708 506506. It is advised that you phone the site before transporting your waste.
     
  4. ajrowing

    ajrowing Star commenter

    The garage I have just finished demolishing had asbestos board for the interior walls.
    The only costs were the petrol to take the bags to the recycling centre.

    I suspect but am not certain that the roofing material would be a similar type and so you could do the same thing. One does have to make sure that it is double bagged (in the bags or sheets the recycling centre supply and taped carefully). The risk is with the dust so if you can do it outside, with a mask, gloves and are careful to wash everything down and not break the pieces, it isn't too difficult to sort out.

    Edit What Nomad said in more detail!
    Except that both my local recycling centres do accept it, one you have to ring in advance, the other just turn up as long as it is correctly wrapped they were happy. (This may be an advantage of being out in the sticks).
     
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  5. BillyBobJoe

    BillyBobJoe Lead commenter

    The HSE website has very good guidance on dealing with asbestos safely.
     
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  6. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    Asbestos left in situ is not harmful as long as it isn't damaged is there any other reason you want to remove it?

    Apparently some old council houses in a nearby town have asbestos cold water tanks in the loft, as long as they aren't drilled into or broken they are perfectly safe and so they remain.
     
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  7. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

    Thanks all - very much appreciated.

    Indeed, that is the advice of the council too. Just I keep looking at it and wondering if over the years it has taken some cracks and damage.....then think for total peace of mind just get it removed.

    BUT.....I was not expecting it to cost in the thousands so I'll think about it a bit more.

    DIY is tempting as we really are just talking about some sheets placed across a small block garage.
     
  8. modelmaker

    modelmaker Lead commenter

    How many? After asbestos was banned, substitutes that look similar were used, but are safe. The materials look very similar to the untrained eye.

    The only way to be certain is to have the material tested. During some work that was being done on the estate I manage, some material that looked like it might be asbestos was discovered, so I had to have it tested before the work could proceed.

    The guy from the testing company shone a bright torch at it from various angles first, before he took a sample back to the lab. He said he didn't think it was asbestos and explained that it "sparkled" under the light, meaning that as the light caught some of the particles, they reflected the light. I can't remember how much the testing cost, but it wasn't too expensive, probably about sixty quid. Certainly a hell of a lot cheaper than the cost of having the material removed by a specialist asbestos contractor if it had been asbestos.
     
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  9. gainly

    gainly Star commenter

    Asbestos wasn't banned until 1999, so if the garage was built in the 1970s there's a good chance it is asbestos.
     
  10. angiebabe

    angiebabe Occasional commenter

    I need some garden work done and there are some small broken bits of asbestos amongst the debris. Chap told me that he can remove it, needs to be doubled bagged & sealed anD appointment made with local skip (which is similar to what someone else said.
    I too have an asbestos garage roof and would like an idea of how much a firm would charge to remove and then give me a new roof.
     
  11. BillyBobJoe

    BillyBobJoe Lead commenter

    Don't take my quote as indicative - I live in a very (very) remote area with ferries and overnight accommodation involved, plus our asbestos was inside so they would have tented the building and done negative pressure.
     
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  12. lindenlea

    lindenlea Star commenter

    Costs vary depending on where you live. A builder working in our pleasant small town is reported as saying "I like working here - you can charge more and people pay up - not like -----------" (naming neighbouring city )
     
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  13. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

    Well I am being told (online) a garage roof can be done for £350 but my fear is that is like airlines with the 'fly to Sydney for a fiver' and then the 'sorry, all sold out but we have tickets for $1,000 one way on your dates'.

    £350 seems fair to me, considering all that is needed is to water the asbestos, break the holding screws and lift the plates to some bags. (The new roof is of course another outlay)

    But yes, it is a nasty job and they do play on your fears of it being there to ask big money. I will get onto these £350 people.
     
  14. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    Make sure they're not the kind of people who charge for removing rubbish and then leave it fly-tipped by the side of a country road somewhere.
     
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  15. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

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  16. maggie m

    maggie m Lead commenter

    Anyone had to have a party wall agreement ? We have been thinking about adding a single story extension to give us a bigger kitchen. We have discussed this with our neighbours ( house is a semi) and they seemed very positive. We decided to get plans drawn up and took them round to show the neighbours before doing anything formal. They were very unpleasant and said they had no intention of agreeing to any building near their property. They already have an extension like the one we are proposing Apparently the next step is getting a surveyor and our archietect has said it is highly unlikely that they can stop us but this is going to be expensive not menton the ill feeling. My feeling is lets forget it and move but MrM doesn't want to. What to do?.
     
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  17. emerald52

    emerald52 Star commenter

    Go ahead as you’ll get the benefit of your new living space. What horrid neighbours- they probably don’t want the builder’s noise.
     
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  18. border_walker

    border_walker Lead commenter

    No, when I needed to remove an asbestos shed I did it myself. took advice from local council website and disposed of it at the local recycling site. In my case costs were:
    Face mask
    Disposable overalls
    Pair of old trainers which I threw away after the job
    Plastic sheet to double wrap it, plus tape.
     
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  19. border_walker

    border_walker Lead commenter

    Ours does!
    Edit, just checked, there is a limit on 25 sheets max.
     
  20. foxtail3

    foxtail3 Star commenter

    Is it worth a discussion with them about their objections?

    it seems unfair as they already have an extension themselves, but you might be able to compromise. As well as being expensive, hiring a surveyor will probably make them more annoyed and unpleasant and them you’ll have to disclose a dispute if you do ever move.
     

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