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The coalition government ends of the School Sports Partnerships! Thoughts anyone??

Discussion in 'Physical education' started by funkygirl, Oct 20, 2010.

  1. gogojonny

    gogojonny New commenter

    A lot of secondary PE teachers do have the 'I am right, you are wrong' attitude.
    They are on a good deal currently and unfortunately some are fearing for their jobs or the prospect of extra work for no extra money.
    Not saying I am right but I do believe that mine and Squashballs's views need serious consideration. We have experienced both sectors and if the Year 6s in the private school can get a cricket team together to play 5 games over the season against schools 40-50 miles away, why can't the five local primary schools play each when they are only 5 minutes away?
  2. stopwatch

    stopwatch Lead commenter

    Either you are basing these comments on your own experiences, or things HAVE changed since I was in Uk Secondary.
    Not only the school/s I worked in but colleagues schools did not have such a negative situation. [​IMG]
  3. stopwatch

    stopwatch Lead commenter

    No - just someone - the only one - to have (partly) agreed to some of your comments on this thread.
    Well - apart from me - I also agreed with some of the things you have said [​IMG]
  4. stopwatch

    stopwatch Lead commenter

    Yes I agree, but this will only happen to the degree it needs to if Specialist are in place in Primaries (anybody want to give me a job [​IMG])
    (NB and not by taking the specialists from Secondary)
  5. gogojonny

    gogojonny New commenter

    Y9 is a major problem year - the initial enthusiasm of Y7 and 8 has gone. Many schools now adopt the policy of making all pupils change for PE whether they are injured or not - as many pupils were turning up without kit and with forged notes saying 'hurt my knee Sir'.
    One problem is that some schools are sports colleges and some are not. Some have outstanding facilities, some don't.
    One secondary school I worked at had a leaking gym roof. The gym was freezing cold and outdated. Little facilities outside. We were linked into a partnership with a school (a sports colleges) that have 5 outdoor 5-a-side football pitches, a gigantic indoor sports hall, proper modern changing facilities. Now I don't know what the uptake of PE was like with Y9 at that school, but I would guess it was a lot higher than at my school.
    I've worked with Y9 and when I look back I think 'was it worth it', 'what did they get out of it', and to be honest the time would have been better spent letting them play games under the supervision of a well qualified coach. The time spent chasing kit, checking notes, dealing with pupils who didn't want to participate, misbehaviour in the lesson, bullying in the lesson etc. They could have covered all the fitness work in Y7/8 (and even earlier in primary). Half the battle was that they were being told what to do - 6 weeks rugby, 6 weeks basketball etc. Why not give them a choice at this age - 1 of 3 games activities and incorporate team practices into the lesson.

  6. When the Govt are saying that only 1 in 5 play competitive games, they are misleading you. The figures are more. What they are saying is that only 1 in 5 play REGULAR competitive games. I can't remember what they clasify as regular but it is something like 6-12 times per year - no wonder why it is 1 in 5.
    As mentioned before, the only way I can see this regularity increasing is if schools took a BUCS approach where they had a couple of afternoons off where school did not teach and were put aside for sport and other activities. This way, schools could commit to taking part and would not be too busy, have enough staff and the time to do it. I am not just talking about normal sports (these should be on offer for those who want to do it including B/C teams taking part) but also other sports/physical activity that cater for individuals. This would mean that pupils can play competitive sport or take part in other extra-curricula activities.
    As far as partnerships go - well managed ones have made a huge impact and have so many inspirational and passionate individuals working for them. I would like to see the Govt keep some funded ringfenced for partnerships but I feel that steering groups should be set up (to include partnership staff, Head teachers of primary and secondary school, primary staff, local clubs, SDos, CSPs and other bodies) to decide how these partnerships are run. I have worked in a few over the years and it amazes me that they have no steering group and only focus on what is coming down from the top. Keep it local...
  7. bigfatgit

    bigfatgit Occasional commenter

    Hey, Stoppers
    Do you remember the "good old days" when we (PE teachers) got off our @rses and organised tournaments (or is that festivals?) & leagues for every school in our district (primary & secondary) in nearly every sport, in our own time, because we thought it was our "jobs"?
    Imagine what we could have done with all those millions! [​IMG]
  8. stopwatch

    stopwatch Lead commenter

    For sure yes.
    I haven't had much contact with UK PE bods for a while but it sounds like it is very different.
    We used to go into Primaries one afternoon a week off our own bats (like the pun?) and take a lesson, get involved, meet the kids. this was in the '80's and 90's.
    We also used to host tournaments for them.
    And your right, it is because we felt it was our job to do it.
  9. gogojonny

    gogojonny New commenter

    You''re right, keeping it local is the key.
    You will not have a national games afternoon, but local schools should get together and say 'lets play on a Thursday afternoon for Y7, Tues afternoon for Y9 etc'.
    Look at all the money - why has this not taken place already. How can the private system do all this for less money?
    All this money and only 1 in 5 play regular fixtures. As I've said before many times lets stop pratting about with handball and talent ID festivals and lets get back to delivering the traditional sports.
    I like the idea of a BUCS style afternoon - but you would need extra staff to make that work - i.e. schools would have to employ coaches as can't see them employing extra PE teachers.
    If only 3-4 schools got together then the results would be immense - the pupils could play each team twice making it up to 6 games. This would stretch a term, and then they can change sports the next term (keeping the league). Have a winner for each sport and an overall winnner.
    Less is more!

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