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The Accepted Proposals and Permanent Supply

Discussion in 'Scotland - education news' started by knz8484, Apr 29, 2011.

  1. The now accepted proposals specify new conditions for Supply; however what I want to know is how does this effect Permanent Supply Staff. Do they also get their first 5 days at a reduced rate as well?
  2. Don't think so because you have a contract in place anyway. Check with your union? (and if it's the EIS have a wee rant while you're there)
  3. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    I assume that the clue is in the word "permanent".
  4. braemar

    braemar New commenter

    I work in a relatively rural secondary school away from the Central Belt where most of our supply staff tend to be retired members of staff as we find it difficult to get young teachers doing supply in our LA. It will be interesting to see how schools who are dependent on the goodwill of retired staff to cover short term absences in our school cope. I don't think there will be many retired staff willing to come in if they are working for a substantially reduced salary for the first five days of any absence.
  5. I can understand your sarcastic reply, however I have heard from a wide variety of sources that it may affect "Permanent" due to them still being labelled "supply"!
  6. Si N. Tiffick

    Si N. Tiffick Occasional commenter

    If you have a contract, it doesn't affect you. e.g. temp contract to cover a maternity leave- you'd be paid properly from the first day. This would be the same for permanent supply too. I don't think it was a sarcastic reply, just a sensible one.
  7. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    I think what we are trying to say is that permanent supply teachers are the same as permanent teachers who are based in the one school or permanent teachers (specialists) who are going round several schools. If you are on a yearly salary and paid monthly without having to claim it,the new rules should not affect you.
  8. When I moved out of nursery and wanted to get back into primary teaching, I changed to permanent supply to be able to retain my permanency ( thank goodness I did!). Permanent supply in my LA (Fife) ceased to exist 2 years later. However, because I had retained my permanent contract with the council I was redeployed to the school I had been covering in. As Catmum says, permanent supply teachers are treated in the same way as permanent teachers; either to a school or to an LA. Your wages are paid each month and you don't have to file a return to get them and your terms and conditions should be the same as for any other class teacher who isn't part of the supply pool.
    I don't have a permanent school and could be moved at the whim of the LA, but I think you will find that that has been the case for most teachers permanently employed since McCrone. I have been very lucky in being able to stay in the same school for the past 5 years and hope to remain there.

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