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TES news - Russell to tackle supply shortage

Discussion in 'Scotland - education news' started by sos1, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    So he knows what the problem is: the destruction of short term supply teachers' rights; yet he resolves to solve it by having more teachers trained who also won't want to do short term supply?
    The man is beyond foolish!
     
  3. Erm - reinstate the old short-term supply rate and problem solved. Spend more money on training yet more teachers, which someone has already mentioned, to not take on short-term supply because of the rubbish rates of pay, is, er, highly stupid.
    Is this guy just thick?
     
  4. And they wonder why??

    Short-term supply rate (paid up to five days) on point 1 of the scale:
    £15.63 per hour
    £78.16 per day
    Long-term supply rate for teacher on point 6 of the scale:
    £20.79 per hour
    £145.53 per day
    Probationer’s daily rate
    £91.22

    So after tax & NI your annual salary would be, wait for it...£15,943.76
     
  5. vforvendetta

    vforvendetta New commenter

    Assuming of course you work every single day of the school year. The mind boggles at the prospect of training yet more teachers, after the unmitigated disaster of over-training in the past decade.
     
  6. On another point - why are councils allowed to pay your holiday pay in 4 blocks during the year? Robbing sods. Just got my payslip and it nearly made me cry. Another month living off beans.
    They just take the rip out of supply teachers all the time...getting really sick of it tbh...,
     
  7. You have to accrue it in order to be paid it. Of all the evils visited on supply teachers, I don't think quarterly holiday pay is that bad.
     
  8. I do not see why it just can't be monthly - its my hard earned money in their bank account.
     
  9. kibosh

    kibosh Star commenter

    I agree, but you've got to give him credit for his clever act; acting the fool, when he knows damn well what's being been going on all along . . . . . imo this is calculated, part of a long term agenda . . . . .. just a way of wiping the supply lists clean (getting rid of all the hangers on) and then strating afresh with a new recruitment drive.
    [​IMG]
     
  10. kibosh

    kibosh Star commenter

    And that's why they hold it back . . . .. interest accrued for them on countless peoples wages.
     
  11. Aye - too true - swines that they are. (Didn't mean to hijack the thread - just saw red when I saw my payslip)
     
  12. And a recruitment drive where people know from the outset that day to day supply is poorly paid and therefore will be less likely to complain about it...
     
  13. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    I had not thought of it that way (and I'm usually the one looking at the worst angle about everything)However,that sounds about right. Fill the supply lists with new recruits who don't know any better,therefore the problem is solved. Probably won't be long before the "cover supervisor" title arrives uphere!
     
  14. "They just take the rip out of supply teachers all the time...getting really sick of it tbh...,"

    It's not just supply teachers....How many CT's do you know who:
    1) Work their contracted(i.e. ALL they're paid for) 35hrs?
    2) Regularly miss full breaktimes?(it's that contractual thing again)
    3) Lose out on(contractually entitled to) NCCT slots?
    4) Spend their own 'hard-earned' on classroom resources?

    I'm starting to make CT's think when I go to schools now and they hear the reality of the hatchet job. What's next after the pensions and NCCT lost? I advocate working to rule over strike action. This 'house of cards' needs to be brought down round 'their' heads now, this session. I don't know if 'they' will survive the coming 'winter of discontent' but, if 'they' do, 'they'll' be stronger and it'll possibly be too late. Oh yes, they've been cunning, very cunning, but history has shown, time and time again, that 'people power'(how many fed-up/overworked/undervalued/abused teachers are there again? Oh, thousands. And, hey, education is a cornerstone of a civilised society, you need it, you can't survive without it. Oh, and you need to be legally qualified and trained to do it so no quick replacement there. And, let's not forget, teachers are intelligent, more so than the hatchet mob I'd suggest, even if 'they' won a battle but not the 'war'...Hmmmm) ALWAYS wins out in the end BUT, people power is required. Have we grown too soft in not showing our 'pay-masters'(the taxpayer, not the leeches) our true worth? ALL teachers MUST act now or it'll get 'ugly', very very ugly.............
     
  15. kibosh

    kibosh Star commenter

    I'm far to bluddy angry to be demotivated about anything. You get the same service from me as you've always got. Angry! [​IMG]
    That's not ideal. Perhaps like me, the supply teacher was covering a subject (or age/stage in Primary) that was not their specialism. That brings some quite complex issues to the table, for pupils, for existing staff and for the supply teacher. I have frequently been called in to teach subjects and provide continuity in subjects that are not my specialism - why? Cos they can't get a subject specailist for love <strike>nor money</strike> . . .what am I talking about, there IS NO MONEY.
     
  16. kibosh

    kibosh Star commenter

    Good or bad?
    Joking aside, this is not ideal. As a secondary teacher I regularly get asked to cover long stints in subjects that are not my specialism. This brings a whole pile of complex issues to the table for pupils, existing staff and the supply teacher. Why? Because the school can't get hold of a subject specialist for love<strike> nor money.</strike> . . . .silly me . . .there is no money!
     
  17. kibosh

    kibosh Star commenter

    Sorry about that. Posted once and seemed to fail, then tried again and struggled to remember the first post.
     
  18. Yes, these supply teqaches are rubbish.
     
  19. OMG - haver you procreated? Jeez...
     

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