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Terrified about starting my GTP in D&T in Feb 2012!!

Discussion in 'Trainee and student teachers' started by bobbles53, Jan 15, 2012.

  1. Hello
    I have recently been accepted onto a secondary D&T GTP placement at a large inner london school. The school has many GTPs and supports the Teach First programme and I visited the school for 3 days in the new year and I felt immediately at home, the staff, kids were brilliant and the principal met with me herself and was very approachable.
    Apparently the school advised in this instance that I dont have to apply through the provider they have previously/currently used with the school as its an academy and is owned by the ULT, so I will be payed and employed directly with them.(Think it works out I get a little more money but a bit more responsibility) It's also been mentioned Il be teaching mainly D&T, a little media and some photography! ( I studied media at college so this makes sense to me) Il get a mentor and lots of support etc.
    I recieved a phone call on friday to say that the school would like to start my GTP on the 20th of FEB!!!!! which is great news, however im feeling really overwhelmed and rather scared about whats going to hit me in the next 5 weeks and would love to hear from any current/old GTP'rs who could offer some very honest advice!! Also - Is it normal to be employed as a GTP direct with an academy and not go through the process with a provider?
    Thanks!


     
  2. Hello
    I have recently been accepted onto a secondary D&T GTP placement at a large inner london school. The school has many GTPs and supports the Teach First programme and I visited the school for 3 days in the new year and I felt immediately at home, the staff, kids were brilliant and the principal met with me herself and was very approachable.
    Apparently the school advised in this instance that I dont have to apply through the provider they have previously/currently used with the school as its an academy and is owned by the ULT, so I will be payed and employed directly with them.(Think it works out I get a little more money but a bit more responsibility) It's also been mentioned Il be teaching mainly D&T, a little media and some photography! ( I studied media at college so this makes sense to me) Il get a mentor and lots of support etc.
    I recieved a phone call on friday to say that the school would like to start my GTP on the 20th of FEB!!!!! which is great news, however im feeling really overwhelmed and rather scared about whats going to hit me in the next 5 weeks and would love to hear from any current/old GTP'rs who could offer some very honest advice!! Also - Is it normal to be employed as a GTP direct with an academy and not go through the process with a provider?
    Thanks!


     
  3. jek228

    jek228 New commenter

    I hate to be negative but this whole thing sounds a bit odd to me! The GTP process (having been through it twice!) is just not that simple and quick - quite the opposite. You find a school who are willing to support you and then you have to be accepted through a provider - usually a university as they are the ones who provide the training programme and are also given the funding through the TDA. I have a place with an academy but I still have to be accepted through a university. Have you had a proper interview? What are you qualifications and experience and without sounding patronising, are you sure this is a GTP place? I also find it a bit odd that you will be teaching 'mainly D&T, a little media and some photography'. The GTP is an incredibly tough, intensive programme where you are being trained to teach one particular specialised subject, not bits of this and that. As I said I hate to be negative, but it all sounds very odd and you do not even seem to understand what is happening. Another thing to remember is that most providers start their GTP training once a year in September. I have never heard of anywhere that starts midway through Feb. I would get on the phone first thing tomorrow and demand some clearer answers.
     
  4. Hi
    Thank you so much for replying!
    I spoke to the school this morning and have confirmed exactly what im actually going to be doing! Im starting in Feb as an unqualified teacher teaching predominently D&T, some art lessons and some photography lessons.( only 9 hours every two weeks!) This is with a view to help me (and them as they need the help!) getting as much teaching experience in before september as I can when I will then start my GTP! I got my wires crossed and thought I was starting my GTP in Feb and panicked!
    For the school to place me so early they need to have a need for me and I have all the relevant experience to help teach the above which is where they need the help most.
    In September I start my GTP (D&T) with the school and I know they already use a provider with the school but I got my wires crossed thinking I was starting the course early and didnt have to go through the provider etc! It appears I was wrong ( its only working before hand I apply direct with the school )and for my GTP in particular it will all go through the provider which is what I expected!
    So now thats all cleared and its all appearing like the normal route, any advice/tips?! Im very excited and feel less scared now I actually know whats happening!

     
  5. jek228

    jek228 New commenter

    Are you aware though that to start a GTP place this September, your school needs to apply to the provider(s) on your behalf, then you may or may not get an interview as the GTP is hugely competitive. If you get an interview there are only a handful of secondary places available, the interview and selection criteria is tough and you are not guaranteed a place even if you get an interview. I know excellent candidates with years worth of experience who have failed to get on a course for the last 3 years as it is so competitive with so few places. I just think you seem to be unaware of what is involved and hope the school are not misguiding you into thinking you will automatically start your GTP in September. As I said before it doesn't work like that. For you to start in September your school should have already or should be now applying to the provider(s) for you, in order for you to get an interview. Where I am Interviews for September's intake are happening now. I had one in December through one provider and I have one next week for another provider. I know there will probably be around 12 of us and only 3 places and that everyone will be greatso ; highly qualified and experienced.

    As an unqualified teacher you will be expected to produce lesson plans and resources and be responsible for marking, assessment etc. so it would be good if you had experience of this as well as good classroom/behaviour management skills. If this is the route the school are taking for you ie applying now to a provider for a September start, then the job will be great experience. However, again it all seems a little rushed and confusing. Maybe they mean that by September they will have an idea if you will be suited at the school as a teacher and they will then apply to the provider(s) for a September 2013 start?
     
  6. Hi, I am fully aware of what a long drawn out process it is and especially how competitve it is and I didnt feel the need to discuss this fact when lots of other threads cover that topic.
    I have spoke to my school, provider and the TDA and the difference with my case to yours is that my placement is funded by the school, not the provider. I think it would be classed as self - funded. My provider also works differently to others and my interview is directly with the school not with them. As the school has run the GTP and Teach First programme for several years the school can and in some cases does run the scheme alone without a provider as they have a GTP coordinator employed within the school. They may also get them in on a consultancy basis though to work along side the school through the programme. Also because of this I can actually start my GTP at any time, I'ts just the route your taking is more commonly known to start in September. If your unsure of this then call the TDA. I was looking for positive advice as I'm starting school in February not a discussion about the route I took into it.
    I think its important to keep in mind that when people set up threads on this website we give as much unbiased (in some cases..) and positive feedback as possible and I would say that whilst your experience sounds stressful and competitive which I'm fully aware that it is, every school/academy/provider is different and works to different dates and different criteria. Also every applicant is different and has different experience to put towards their teaching career and I dont think its fair to pass judgment on what you may deem suitable.
    If anyone else has any positive advice for me in preperation for my post as an unqualified teacher in d&t, art and photography then please feel free to post. Other than that I dont wish to discuss the application details of my placement any further.
    Thank you
     
  7. Hi,
    I completed my QTS via the GTP route some years ago. It was a lot of hard work juggling a full D and T timetable, constant planning, new knowledge, student management and completing folders of evidence. The ground never stopped moving and I learned quickly that teaching was a path I'd never regret. Others quickly learned via the GTP route that teaching was a mistake - better to find out sooner rather than later! You will probably feel like you've been hit by a sledge hammer - best advice I can give:
    Early to bed and lots of beer. Don't be afraid to ask for help - especially with behaviour management. Do lots of practical lessons and use this as a tool to encourage good progress with students. I found those that were excluded from these activities hated being left out of them and soon came round to who was the boss and how they needed to behave. Jump on ALL and EVERY misdemeanour in the classroom. Plan all and every lesson.
    Relax and enjoy. - you've either made the best or worst decisoin of your life.
     

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