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Term Time Holidays?

Discussion in 'Pay and conditions' started by NewbieHoD, Feb 5, 2020.


Would you work intervention sessions in holiday time to buy back term-time holiday days?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. NewbieHoD

    NewbieHoD New commenter

  2. Skeoch

    Skeoch Star commenter

    Well.... it's a nice idea. Would need to fund the supply teachers, or other cover, in term time, though. And I would think the teachers on holiday would be expected to do the planning in advance, and some marking on return, to ensure that the education that was provided while they were away was up to scratch.
    Would need lots of planning, consideration of teachers who didn't want term-time holidays, or didn't want to go away at all, or couldn't go - would they be missing out somehow?
    I still think it's a nice idea whose time might come. Might be able to work better with some part-timers in bigger schools, where one PT might move temporarily to FT to let the other PT on holiday, then reciprocal arrangement.
    JohnJCazorla likes this.
  3. NewbieHoD

    NewbieHoD New commenter

    The way I could see it working would be that schools could make savings on paying for additional staff to cover holiday time interventions, revision classes, etc., and then using that to pay cover staff for the term time leave.
    Those who don't want term time leave wouldn't be obliged to take it, and therefore wouldn't be obliged to do the holiday interventions etc. And yes, some FT/PT flexibility would work in some cases.
    Planning and marking would be an interesting thing. Possibly it would need doing by the teacher going on holiday, but a better solution would be for the 2-week "cover" to be a short, intensive block of some specific learning covered by the substituted teacher. That could then be something more valuable than "just cover", a bit like some primaries do with PPA time.
    Needs more thought, and it would take a ballsy leadership team to implement it, but I think it could be done.
    JohnJCazorla likes this.
  4. frustum

    frustum Star commenter

    Many years ago, we had a job-share pair who regularly did this. One had a child in private school, so took time off when her child's holidays began before ours. The other was married to a farmer, so the ability to go on holiday at a quiet time for the farm was very useful.

    I once had a part-time timetable which was all KS4. When year 10 went on work experience for a fortnight (year 11 already having left), I did a deal. I pointed out that my odd hours were not going to make me very useful when the year 7-9 timetable was collapsed for activities week the second of those weeks, so how about I did some full days that week and take the previous week off? Win all round.

    With full-timers, it's not so easy. I like the idea of the cover being a distinct block, but it could be very difficult to organise in secondary. You presumably wouldn't have all your science teachers out at once, so different groups would get that block at different times, and then the groups wouldn't be "synched" for assessments. It could work in primary, though, and perhaps for subjects that are often single-teacher in secondary, especially if you could get someone with specialist knowledge of an area of music/RE/whatever that isn't currently covered.
    JohnJCazorla likes this.
  5. DaisysLot

    DaisysLot Senior commenter

    Well.... while I like the premise, I'm not one for giving the broader society who think teachers already get a fairly cute holiday deal, or parents of students for whom the status quo will presumably still apply, any more ammunition personally.
    JohnJCazorla likes this.
  6. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Star commenter

    You had me until this point. The schools that would benefit greatest from this are bereft of anything resembling careful planning.

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