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Teaching in New Zealand

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by debbieglead, Oct 4, 2016.

  1. Skeire

    Skeire New commenter

    Does anybody know if Novopay accepts salary slips to prove work experience?
    What other ways are acceptable to prove experience?
     
  2. daisy1603

    daisy1603 Occasional commenter

    If you can’t get a statement of service then you can do a statutory declaration and need to provide evidence. See below.

    The Ministry of Education will only accept Statutory Declarations if they are accompanied by corroborating evidence. This evidence may take the form of:

    • Pay slips
    • Letters of resignation
    • Offers of appointment
    • Salary increase notifications
    • Contracts
    • Tax Forms (as long as they clearly state the employer)
    • Letters from colleagues
    • References
    • Super scheme contribution notification
    • Any other appropriate documentation
     
  3. Mlockwood81

    Mlockwood81 New commenter

    Just an update on mine progress, may repeat some previous statements mind!

    Applied for Visa over Xmas, partner had a job offer from an accredited employer, visas came back within 2 weeks. Her and my son went out end of February, I finished off the term at my UK school till Easter.

    I had a couple of months off :) then had a fixed term off till the end of the year from a local secondary school, so put my application in to the Education Council at the end of June. I got a temporary clearance to teach and my actual clearance just came through this week. Took about 10 weeks even though everything was submitted correctly (had obtained the police and child protection cert before applying) and had no requests for further information.

    If you need to teach as soon as you get out here, I would highly recommend starting it ASAP while you're in the UK.

    Just need to sort out my salary now
     
  4. daisy1603

    daisy1603 Occasional commenter

    Thanks for the update @Mlockwood81

    Can I ask, did you apply direct to schools or did you go through an agency?
    How long was your application time to getting out there to work? People are telling me it could take 18 months but others are saying I could be out there by January.
     
  5. mrswallow

    mrswallow Occasional commenter

    It took me about twelve months from deciding to go to actually getting the visa in my passport. Some of this was bureaucracy, especially me not having all the requisite bits of paper. University transcript for example, degree certificate as well. That and having to post stuff to NZ and wait for it to be processed.

    I'd imagine if you are more organised and less chaotic than me, you'd find it a quicker process. Also, I think they have streamlined the process now- for some degrees, not having to get your qualifications assessed by the NZQA will take two months or so off. I came out under the old 'Skilled Migrant' category, which involved having to get a certain number of points, I also had to join the NZ Teachers Council in order to get the visa. I went straight for Permanent Resident. This may also take longer than other visas. Anecdotally, I'd allow three months- as that seems to be the norm at the moment. Can be quicker, if you have a job to go to, and the school can help, or if you use an immigration agent.

    There's no harm applying for jobs direct to the schools involved. I got my first job about a month before we moved out by applying directly, and that's how I've got every job since (currently on my 4th...)

    As an aside- yes, there are teacher shortages and yes, there's a number of teachers leaving for foreign shores and chasing better money elsewhere... but, we survive with a mortgage and three kids on my HoD salary and I have a pretty good work/ life balance. We don't have a flash lifestyle by some standards, but we're pretty happy. Some schools offer housing as part of the job. Not free, but subsidised.
     
  6. Mlockwood81

    Mlockwood81 New commenter

    I got my visa on the back of partner. She had a job offer from an accredited employer, so my visa situation was different.

    Before I came out I emailed directly some schools and went in for a chat with one of them when I arrived. They then offered me a fixed term position until the end of the year. The school then applied for a temporary "pass" for me to teach until my official teacher registration came through.

    I'm a secondary and a-level Maths teacher with some HoD experience, so probably won't be a universal experience.

    Any other questions, please feel free to ask.

     
  7. daisy1603

    daisy1603 Occasional commenter

    Thank you @mrswallow and @Mlockwood81 its great to hear about the process from people who have done it.

    Luckily my qualifications are exempt from NZQA assessment and all my paperwork has been sent off to the Teaching Council this week. All that’s left to do for now is find a job! I have to admit I am finding it frustrating letting an agent know which vacancies I’d like to apply for and trusting that they are sending it off rather than going direct but that’s just the control freak in me :)

    I’d love to be out there for the start of the next school year and am lucky that I’d be able to go very last minute as I don’t have family/a house etc to think about.
     
  8. Mlockwood81

    Mlockwood81 New commenter

  9. mrswallow

    mrswallow Occasional commenter

    Do not underestimate how long it can take to sell a house. I got my visa in the post and put my house on the market. This was a week before the 2008 financial crisis/ house price crash. About eighteen months later, I finally sold it at a slight loss.
     
  10. daisy1603

    daisy1603 Occasional commenter

    Another question about applying directly to schools, what do you put on the application forms when it asks for your teacher registration status/number and visa status? I can't help but feel that putting no/in progress for both that that will be a disadvantage.
    Or is it better just to send an email with CV to the email address that is attached to the advert and explain in the email my current status?
     
  11. Mlockwood81

    Mlockwood81 New commenter

    I just sent some speculative emails to the schools in the area I was moving too... Although I'm in Gisborne so there's only 4 secondaries!

     
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  12. Skeire

    Skeire New commenter

    Has any of you experience with the "discretional pathway" at the teacher's council? And if granted "provisional" would it be possible to find a job in the ECE sector? As NZQA states that: "if your application to register as a teacher and be granted a practising certificate is approved under the discretional pathway you are unlikely to be considered a qualified ECE teacher by the Ministry of Education for funding and licensing purposes."
     
  13. Skeire

    Skeire New commenter

    My NZQA recognition statement says:
    "The Bachelor of Education does not meet the core knowledge requirements of a New Zealand initial teacher education programme." They write that the required age range is not sufficiently covered for either ECE or Primary. However, assessment outcome states: A Bachelor's degree at level 7.
    Did anyone appeal to a decision of NZQA? Is it possible to prove age range based on experience?
    Is it likely to get a provisional outcome but the Teaching Council? Are there realistic chances to find a job if my qualification is not fully recognized?
     
  14. Mlockwood81

    Mlockwood81 New commenter

    Did your qualification include any ITT and therefore gained QTS?

    If it didn't, I imagine that's why it's been refused. Although would need more information about your qualification...
     
  15. taiyah

    taiyah Occasional commenter

    It is unfortunate. But it's a polite way of saying your "degree" doesn't make you a qualified teacher in NZ and if you try Oz, there as well.

    Many won't admit this but there are plenty of UK "bachelor degrees" in education that are simply dodgy degrees both NZ and Oz reject.

    No, experience doesn't give you the qualifications you need. Otherwise every unqualified British teacher with "degrees" will migrate in NZ.

    Suggestion.....go and visit your university for an explanation. Because you got an official letter kindly stating you completed a mickey degree and need further studies.

    Unless you go back and do further studies, a masters it looks like. No. You won't get a job in NZ or AUS.
     
  16. Skeire

    Skeire New commenter

    Thanks for your reply. Would there be a chance to pass the "discretionary pathway" with success?
    I am quite disappointed from the result from my NZQA assessment as I have done 300 hours of Practicum at ECE centres abroad.
    Anyhow I will send my application to the TC and hopefully pass the test.
     
  17. taiyah

    taiyah Occasional commenter

    I feel for you and the situation you are in. All you can do is try. But in essence, you don't have the right level of qualification. Wishing you all the best.
     
  18. SUPER.SUPPLY

    SUPER.SUPPLY Occasional commenter

    Good afternoon all,
    I've been contacted on linked in by a recruitment agency. They are in town at the moment and from New Zealand. They are in Birmingham atm then Manchester and London to recruit for next year. I've booked an appointment for London for an initial interview. This is scary stuff really but I thought there was an age limit. Is there an age limit?
     
  19. Skeire

    Skeire New commenter

    To be eligible for immigration(visa): You must be under 56 years of age;

    Which recruitment agency? Are they still interviewing?

    Good luck with the interview.
     
  20. Skeire

    Skeire New commenter

    Hi,
    I received 'provisional registration' through the discretionary pathway! Any tips where to start looking for a job? Is it still possible to find a job for term 1 or 2?
     

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