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Teaching in Dubai

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by Catrinnia29, Jan 4, 2017.

  1. Catrinnia29

    Catrinnia29 New commenter

    Hi all,

    Hoping someone can help! I am in my second year of teaching secondary Business, young, white female looking to move and work abroad this summer. Any advice or experience working in Dubai? Have always wanted to work abroad but would love to talk to someone who has worked abroad or currently is.
     
  2. mrwindows

    mrwindows New commenter

    I work in Germany currently but also looking at Dubai for next year. I would be interest in the above too!
     
  3. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    Why only Dubai? Just interested why you have singled this place out from such a big wide world?
     
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  4. Catrinnia29

    Catrinnia29 New commenter

    I've always wanted to go to Dubai, I have had a look at different jobs; China, Malaysia but Dubai appeals more.
     
  5. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    Each to there own i suppose. Personally think its one of the worse, fake places i have ever been.

    Good luck though
     
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  6. stopwatch

    stopwatch Lead commenter

    Probably because Dubai gets the most 'press' and is in the eye of the media as 'the place to be' (not saying it is particularly).

    Bear in mind that thinking 'Yeah, I want to be in Dubai next year' isn't the end of the story and it isn't as simple as that.

    Things to consider:
    - There are literally hundreds of people (if not more) thinking the same as you and also applying so there will be lots of competition. Business Studies isn't exactly a big subject out there (which considering the Emirate is built on business is quite ironic) so there may not be many jobs for you to apply for.
    -There are lots of great schools/jobs/packages in Dubai but there are also lots of dire schools/jobs/packages which you can end up stuck with and wishing you weren't there. Do your homework.
    - As another poster has said, it is potentially very plastic/blingy/false/shallow with people of similar description. Choose your friends wisely and keep well grounded if you want to make the most of the potential of being there and still stay a 'real' person.
    -
     
  7. davisnigel

    davisnigel New commenter

    I live just up the road from Dubai, in Abu Dhabi... you couldn't pay me enough to move to Dubai... too flash, too busy, too expensive, too fake - my advice would be to go
     
  8. binaryhex

    binaryhex Lead commenter

    You do understand that if ever a bloke or two decides to sexually assault you, you'll be the one arrested? You can forget about fairness, women's rights or flying home (you won't get an exit visa and won't have your passport.) Do your homework when thinking about Arab countries.
     
  9. the hippo

    the hippo Lead commenter Community helper

    "Arab countries" - is this a sweeping generalization or what?

    Yes, it is true that in Qatar (and maybe in one or two other places) you do need an exit visa in order to leave the country. However, this was definitely not the case in the UAE and in Egypt. Even in Qatar, it is extremely unlikely that your school will refuse to give you an exit visa, if you really do have a good reason for leaving.

    Are women's rights respected everywhere in the world? No? So please do not make such a song and dance about the Middle East, binaryhex.

    It was a few years ago that The Dark Side of Dubai appeared in The Independent. It might be worth a read, Catrinnia29, if you have a strong stomach. You will definitely need one if you are planning to read some of the *** reviews of the so-called "international schools" in Dubai.
     
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  10. tk212

    tk212 New commenter

    Hi Dumbbells66,

    I notice your messages a lot through forums, and have some questions for you....
    I teach and my husband is an engineer, he thinks it is hard to invest in property in the UK whilst abroad as a future pension, I noticed in some threads you've mentioned savings and investments. I do not think it would be hard to do, what is your take?

    Have you always worked abroad? I would like to do this as I did before marriage/kids, but again, other half expresses concerns over family contact and balance. Again, I don't think its an issue, you build a community wherever you live, but how often realistically is it feasible to visit 'home'?

    Forgive me if questions don't apply to you, but from reading your posts, you seem to have the knowledge.
     
  11. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    I dont buy property in the UK, its far to over priced. There are plenty of people who work abroad who do though, and i dont think its very difficult. I work with a couple who have bought 3 properties in the UK in the last 4 years.

    I have a girlfriend but no kids. She lives in another country while i work, and we have amazing holidays together because i get paid considerable more than a teacher in the UK. skype has made living internationally a lot easier. Both me and my sister have been doing this for years. And trust me when i tell you i am never going back. It is fesable to return home every holiday if you are up for it. Personally i only every usually return when im moving countries. I cant stand the UK and try and avoid it at all costs.
     
  12. MsNiChearuil

    MsNiChearuil New commenter

    Hi @Catrinna29 I worked in another of the seven emirates that make up the UAE for a year, about an hour's drive from Dubai. We went to Dubai each weekend to socialise/shop. I wouldn't go back. Most schools supply your accommodation and transport to work, which is great, but that means you often live, socialise, work and spend your entire life over there with the same few people (mostly women). This may suit some people but I found it horribly claustraphobic and like being in boarding school. Also the human rights aspect of the country is very difficult to stomach once you allow yourself to see it. There is no minimum wage and blatant racism and sexism evident in most areas of life. My Filipina TA was paid the equivalent of 10 euro a day, our Indian school cleaner 10 euro a week.Our school also 'held our passports' for the first few weeks 'for administrative purposes' i.e. to ensure nobody left due to homesickness. Our passports were taken in again two weeks before end of the school year 'to process them for exit' to ensure none of us skipped out after our last paycheck.
    If you have your heart set on going, ONLY go to a school that follows the British curriculum or a recognised international curriculum. there are many that follow their own created curriculum and these are little more than 'pay for your grade' operations. I worked at one such place and it was awful from a pedagogical and personal viewpoint. Creativity wasn't allowed, in either teachers or pupils. the curriculum had no basis in modern teaching and the children turned into little robots.
     
  13. tigi

    tigi Occasional commenter

    I would tend to agree with the others that Dubai isn't the be all and end all. Ultimately a good school in a location that you can make work for you is probably a more ideal scenario than dream location and crappy school (some might disagree).

    I work in a school in Eastern Europe. One of the many IS in the world that has its quirks but is a pretty decent and gives you a good standard of living. Is it my dream location? No, the weather is very cold for a few months each year and post-commie cities aren't always the nicest places to live. BUT, it's a big city with tonnes to see and do, lots of "western" comforts and a decent airport is 15 minutes away so if you need a break - voila! And I'm paid well enough that I can afford those flights and a cheeky weekend in Paris or Milan every so often.

    What I guess I'm saying is, be open minded, who knows what opportunity will come along?
     
  14. fsmc

    fsmc Occasional commenter

    I'd fully disagree regarding good school vs good location.

    If your school is bad, and your location is good, you're no worse off than the billions of people round the world who do their jobs for the money, and find their enjoyment outside the workplace. Flip those around however and your life is going to be miserable during term time, and you'll be heading for the airport every chance you get on holidays.

    This is, at the crux of it, why schools in Saudi Arabia have to pay more than ones in Germany. Because if they didn't, no one is taking a 'first tier' school in Saudi over a third tier one in Germany - since people will rightfully consider their lifestyle to come before their job (work to live, not live to work).
     
  15. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    I would have to agree. I lived in a gorgeous part of Spain, try lovely, yet the school was hell on earth. I nearly quit teaching because of it. You have to find a good balance between the both in my opinion.
     
  16. willow78

    willow78 Occasional commenter

    It is difficult (not impossible) to buy from abroad as its often hard to prove income to get a mortgage, so you have to get an ex pat mortgage in which you need a big deposit and may not get as good a rate, as only a few companies will do it.

    Find a good independent mortgage advisor.
     
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  17. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    Or earn enough so you dont need a mortgage ;)
     
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  18. the hippo

    the hippo Lead commenter Community helper

    Why would anyone want to buy property in the UK? In order to boost the inflated profits of the banks and the mortgage lenders, perhaps? Or maybe to help those poor, kind-hearted, truthful and hard-working British estate agents? On the other hand, perhaps you want to live in the UK so that you can have the thrill of paying Council Tax each month.
     
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  19. tigi

    tigi Occasional commenter

    I guess I wasn't thinking as extreme as Saudi v Germany. More just that you need to find a balance. If you live somewhere gorgeous but can't afford a nice apartment/to eat out/travel I think it might lose its shine after a while (and not long) whereas a less "ideal sounding" location might actually grow on you.
     
  20. tk212

    tk212 New commenter


    I was thinking more long term future, sell at retirement and have something to give the kids as their startup in life. Don't really know what else we would be able to do as a retirement plan, when working abroad I am not in the TPS. Having said that, I am not in it now either, as I was given advice by mentor at the time of training 6 years ago, that the ship had sailed for good pensions, and actually these 'promises' that were made 20 years ago will change in 20 years time again, and well - was it really worth those extortionate contributions, on top of Student Loan repayments??
    So I did some calculations and opted out, always thinking I'd save and invest in something instead.
    Anyone have any retirement fund ideas?
     

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