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Teaching in a special school.............

Discussion in 'Personal' started by BelleDuJour, Nov 2, 2010.

  1. I do believe that was a joke which just got blown out of proportion - it wasn't ever meant as a serious criticism of you spelling, was it?
  2. This is the bit that implies you have only just started learning about it. You may have intended otherwise but, again, surely you can see why people might assume you didn't know much before starting this job?
  3. Airy, most children with ASD will have had a noticeable delay in the development of language before the age of 3.
    Children with AS will have had no noticeable delay in either understanding or acquiring speech. In fact, in some, their language development may have even seem noticeably advanced. Some may have been a little slow to develop speech initially, but it will still have been within normal parameters.
    CQ, I did not set the ICD-10 or DSM-iv criteria. If you check the criteria for AS, you will see that "no speech delay" is the criteria which sets AS aside from ASD.

  4. Ta, DL. A child with some delay in acquiring speech but who does seek social contact (for limited times and on his/her own terms) would fall into which category, in your opinion?
  5. dande

    dande New commenter

    You got all that from working in a special school for three days? Bloody hell some researchers spend years coming up with less.
  6. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    Non-verbal, often self harmers, extreme OCD, twitching and other motion symptoms, sleep disturbance, sensory disturbances, shouters. TBH I think you do know what I mean DL.
  7. If they have a average to above average IQ, I would say Asperger's.
    The speech delay may have been down to something other than Asperger's. One boy I know has auditory processing disorder/dyslexia. This is the reason for his speech delay.
    His IQ and desire for social contact would make him more likely to have Asperger's.
    Those with High Functioning Autism/ASD are inclined to be more withdrawn socially.
  8. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    *** can some of you lot get a grip. I started a thread to see if others on here could/would share experiences of working in a special school and all I've got is some petty, point-scoring 'I know more than you do' competition.
    Why can't people on here be nice (well, some are!) and just share experiences and stories that might help others, instead of nit picking on spellings and taking statements out of context just to be nasty? Some of you really need to grow up.
  9. Thanks, DL, you've helped me clarify my thinking there. I appreciate it.
  10. I actually don't know what you mean, because those at the higher end of the spectrum are the ones you describe as likely to have "mild" autism.
    Those with classic autism and severe learning difficulties are at the low end of the autistic spectrum.
    I would point out once again, that there is a huge difference between obsessions and compulsions in ASD and obsessions and compulsions in OCD. They serve completely different functions.
    OCD is a separate mental health disorder, with it's own set of criteria in the ICD-10 and DSM-iv.
    People with ASD may have a co-morbid diagnosis of OCD, but that is different to the normal obsessions and compulsions associated with ASD.
  11. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    They do not DL.
    None are diagnosed as high functioning and all are withdrawn socially. Not one is capable of any degree of what can be considered social interaction.
    Many still have problems with toiletting and dressing.
    In some ways it is like working with 6ft tall, 18 year old toddlers.
  12. You are very welcome, Airy.
  13. Sorry Belle. That reply you quote was to Airy's specific question. I forgot to put her name in it to make that clear.
  14. Belle, I'm sorry you think it's childish but I was actually trying to have a conversation about autism based not just on a wee bit personal experience (although that has some validity too) but research and commonly agreed facts. I know this is Personal but surely we're allowed to have a discussion which includes disagreement without being told we've to be nice. I'm interested in your statement that we're all autistic but I'd like to discuss it and I'd like to be able to ask for more information and/or disagree with you throwing your toys out of the pram - it seems to me a damn sight nearer the stated intention of your original post than simply sitting around telling each other we're fabby for working with autistic children.
  15. Fair point Belle. It does seem petty.
    Well done on getting the role.
    I have taught 'special needs' but my specialism and training was in behaviour management. I am not sure that I could work with the some of the kids you describe, (my problem - not theirs!) whereas the defiant naughties who square up to teachers (for what ever reason) were my bread and butter for many years. I'd probably be OK eventually but I imagining some of the behaviour might be unnerving until you are used to it and understand it and the 'programmes' in place for each child?
    I imagine it's a bit like nursing in a way - in that you have to have a feel for working with such kids and all the patience and understanding that such teaching entails? It's not for everyone, is it?
    Hope it continues to go well. I imagine you'll learn an awful lot on a day to day basis.
  16. dande

    dande New commenter

    I made a joke over a spelling error which you made. I even made it clear it was a joke by including a smiley which you conveniently missed off when quoting me. You were then unable to find the error despite being told where to look. Who's fault was this? I wonder if you would still be looking if Gar had not pointed it out.
  17. I think what has annoyed me, is that yesterday Belle was suggesting that she knew little about ASD and tonight she is saying she has had an interest in it for a very long time. She has made some sweeping generalisations, and in doing so, I am a bit lost about what she actually does know.
    As far as the post she quoted, it was a reply to Airy, and I apologise for not having made it clear at the time.

  18. acertainsomething

    acertainsomething Occasional commenter

    This is entirely fair and accurate
  19. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    Wasn't referring to you airy.
    Sorry...didn't mean it to come across like that.
    I'd like to explain what I meant but TBH I haven't got the energy to do it now.....my job is exhausting me!
  20. Samjam1

    Samjam1 New commenter

    Um - I think that if you are thrown into teaching and working with a group of individuals outside your traditional comfort zone it is usual to become very interested in something you might have been less aware of in the past - and people like doglover have very valuable advice to give without being scathing of those who know less, but are genuinely interested?
    I for one would not know how to go about special school teaching without training and would be interested in the advice of those better informed.

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