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Teaching help for UK and Ireland?

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by ReidC22, Apr 20, 2011.

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    Hello to all who are reading this posting. I am currently a certified teacher in the
    U.S. who has just recently graduated with my degree in music education. I am qualified to teach K-12 here in the
    states, but am looking for a new adventure.
    I decided a long time ago that I had always wanted to teach overseas,
    but have been afraid to take that first leap into a new territory.

    Right now I am currently working a position that pays the
    bills, but doesn't fulfill my passion.
    That being said I need some help and guidance. I decided that wherever teaching takes me is
    where I am going to go in order to be happy in my life. I have been overwhelmed over these last
    couple of weeks reading about the schools systems, and who to trust on some
    issues involving making the move from the U.S. to Europe. Essentially I am looking for someone who has
    a little bit of patience and a big heart to help.

    I have questions regarding how the school systems are set
    up, what I am qualified to teach overseas, any certification that I will need,
    and even if I am looking for said position at a good time? I have many other questions, but as mentioned
    earlier I am just taking the first step and this is where it has taken me. Any advice on agencies to look into or
    someone who just wants to lend helping hand would be much appreciated. Thank you to all who are reading this and
    taking time out of your day, and extra thanks in advance to those willing to
  2. bbibbler

    bbibbler New commenter

    Try looking at Search Associates or ISS, they are both worldwide agencies that have job fairs in the US.

    They have lots of experience but both will cost you money to join.

    You may be late in the year for posts, but you will be able to have everthing in place for starting in Aug/Sept 2012.

  3. bbibbler

    bbibbler New commenter

    Sorry, I think I may have misunderstood your post.

    My advice was for teaching in international schools in Europe. Rereading you post, it seems that you may be considering working in the public sector of the UK education system. If that is the case then my advice is DON'T.

  4. Take it from me. Ireland is a non starter.
  5. purpleapple

    purpleapple New commenter

    Hi to the OP. Sounds as if you have an adventure in your head. Regarding working in England, I think that process is that you get yourself a job and then you need to undergo the "Overseas Trained Teacher Programme" to validate your teaching qualifications as a non-EU trained teacher. You do this while on the job, collect evidence and need to be observed. I'm sure most universities do this but here is the link to sussex uni:


    So basically you have to get yourself a job first. This might be your stumbling block. Teaching in English schools can be great or horrible. Basically there is tough competition for the good schools, but you could probably walk into a job at the worst schools (stating the bl**ding obvious, I know). I don't know what the availability of music jobs is, but bear in mind that a lot of schools are not replacing teachers that are now leaving unless absolutely essential (i.e. physics or chemistry teachers). To start looking for jobs in the UK, just go to the TES jobs site and start searching. I guess actually being in the country would be best, as in the UK you have to do an interview class 9/10 times. So pick your area. Again stating the bl**ding obvious pretty lovely areas such as Devon are very hard to find jobs in, but the likes of the inner cities in the midlands would be alot easier.

    I can only help you regarding england. Scotland has its own educational system, and the republic of ireland is (bl**ding obvious yet again) a complete separate country, where you will need to learn gaelic. (And the country is a bit ******** at the moment, so may not be taking on new teachers.)

    Remember loads of aussies do what you are planning to do all the time, with few problems. Good luck!!!
  6. tica

    tica New commenter

    Apart from requests for information about Scotland, considered a developing nation with third world status aspirations,

    Do you try to be offensive or does it just come naturally?
  7. MisterMaker

    MisterMaker Occasional commenter

    Quite naturally!
  8. You're back! Excellent.
    Hope we have seen the last of the 'Principal' sort - he was a right stiff.
  9. rednelly84

    rednelly84 Occasional commenter

    Oh, haven't heard that one before... [​IMG]

    To the OP, Scotland is not a good place to think about advancing your teaching career. I left because I couldn't secure a job in any part of Scotland. Also, some LA's are cutting back on specialist teachers by placing them back in the classroom full time. So it's a lose lose situation I'm afraid.

  10. Mainwaring

    Mainwaring Established commenter

    It is certainly UK based but it also discusses topics which are not specifically British, such as the IB and on occasion American schooling both in the USA and abroad. We are all overseas from a great number of places. Some of us are even occasionally seas over.
    Is the OP exclusively about the British state sector? Or is the enquiry wider than that?
    I suggest that you do that but also stick around on this one. You just might pick up something useful and, who knows, you might be able to teach MM something about the art of civilised interaction. But don't hold your breath.
  11. [​IMG]
    Although MM/PS (oh no, another one of those posters who is known by more than two names, you know like Blibbler/wetfart) was only jesting (I mean, who doesn't hate the Scots...?).

  12. You should look at Timeplan, just google the name. They sort out international teachers for London mostly, but I believe they help with visas, accommodation and training too...
  13. Mainwaring

    Mainwaring Established commenter

    Mel Gibson?
    Mel Gibson's bank manager?
    Other Scots? (Scrub that. I've just remembered Rangers and Celtic).


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