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Teaching business in sixth form schools, adult learning centres or FE colleges

Discussion in 'Business studies' started by StellaLalle, Jul 19, 2011.

  1. Hi all,
    I would love to teach Business related or Humanities courses for adults (post 16) in the UK but I don't know which path to take and I need some advice. I thank you in advance for all replies.
    There are so many vocational awarding bodies, types of degrees, etc, that I have to confess that I am totally confused.
    My background is in Technology. I have a MSc degree in Electronic Engineering and I worked for more than 7 years as IT consultant, project leader and trainer.
    I also have a MA in Market Intelligence and International Business.
    Both degrees and professional experience were acquired abroad (different countries in Europe and South America).
    The teacher training I had was:
    - IT Teacher Training (I am a Microsoft Certified Teacher Trainer)
    - some credits from a MA in Intercultural Education (not completed) done abroad
    - a City & Guilds PTLLs course level 4 (UK)
    I have also been studying Philosophy at Open University (as part of a BA).
    I want to teach Philosophy or Business related subjects to adults. One possibility might be to teach Philosophy or Business Studies A-level to post-16 learners in sixth form colleges or secondary schools with sixth form.
    My questions are:
    1) Is Further Education the same as Post-compulsory Education? Is a sixth form college a kind of FE college?
    2) Are A-level subjects only taught to 16- to 18-year-olds in the sixth form? Or can adults (post 16) also study A-level subjects in Adult Learning Centres or other FE colleges?
    3) If I do a PGCE course in post-compulsory education, will I be able to teach to 16- to 18-year-olds in secondary schools that offer sixth form or do I need a PGCE in secondary school?
    4) I also read that there are no PGCE courses in Philosophy. I would then have to do a PGCE course in a second subject. The requirement seems to be a degree where the subject I want to teach corresponds to 50% of the content studied in the degree program. Does it have to be a BA degree or my MA in Market Intelligence and International Business can be used?
    5) What about vocational awarding bodies and qualifications such as BTECs? Do I also need a PGCE to be a BTEC teacher?
    Sorry for so many (basic) questions but I thought that the best way to get the right answers is to talk to the right people (those who are teaching business in the FE sector).
    Thank you once again for your attention!
    Stella
     
  2. Hi all,
    I would love to teach Business related or Humanities courses for adults (post 16) in the UK but I don't know which path to take and I need some advice. I thank you in advance for all replies.
    There are so many vocational awarding bodies, types of degrees, etc, that I have to confess that I am totally confused.
    My background is in Technology. I have a MSc degree in Electronic Engineering and I worked for more than 7 years as IT consultant, project leader and trainer.
    I also have a MA in Market Intelligence and International Business.
    Both degrees and professional experience were acquired abroad (different countries in Europe and South America).
    The teacher training I had was:
    - IT Teacher Training (I am a Microsoft Certified Teacher Trainer)
    - some credits from a MA in Intercultural Education (not completed) done abroad
    - a City & Guilds PTLLs course level 4 (UK)
    I have also been studying Philosophy at Open University (as part of a BA).
    I want to teach Philosophy or Business related subjects to adults. One possibility might be to teach Philosophy or Business Studies A-level to post-16 learners in sixth form colleges or secondary schools with sixth form.
    My questions are:
    1) Is Further Education the same as Post-compulsory Education? Is a sixth form college a kind of FE college?
    2) Are A-level subjects only taught to 16- to 18-year-olds in the sixth form? Or can adults (post 16) also study A-level subjects in Adult Learning Centres or other FE colleges?
    3) If I do a PGCE course in post-compulsory education, will I be able to teach to 16- to 18-year-olds in secondary schools that offer sixth form or do I need a PGCE in secondary school?
    4) I also read that there are no PGCE courses in Philosophy. I would then have to do a PGCE course in a second subject. The requirement seems to be a degree where the subject I want to teach corresponds to 50% of the content studied in the degree program. Does it have to be a BA degree or my MA in Market Intelligence and International Business can be used?
    5) What about vocational awarding bodies and qualifications such as BTECs? Do I also need a PGCE to be a BTEC teacher?
    Sorry for so many (basic) questions but I thought that the best way to get the right answers is to talk to the right people (those who are teaching business in the FE sector).
    Thank you once again for your attention!
    Stella
     
  3. From a senior leadership point of view i would find you much more useful if you had a PGCE in Technology, and were then able to offer the host of other subjects you have at your disposal. Given current and future issues regarding vocational education, and the massive demand for STEM (science, tech, engineering and maths) based teaching i think you career prospects would be infinitely more varied than if you narrowed down to a PGCE in what is essential an option subject pre16 and a specialist subject post.16.
    However, please feel free to ignore this completely!
     
  4. glynmanton

    glynmanton New commenter

    I agree about technology suggestion - that would give you experience in ks3-5.

    You do not need a PGCE to teach in 16+ - They usually train you once you are in the job - If you do get a PGCE in FE it would not give you QTS - Your training must be in schools. To complete PGCE in ks3 means you can teach in FE.

    I did a PGCE in FE - I then had to do a transfer qualification to gain QTS- Would have been better to start in schools in first place.

    Have you considered ICT? There were some SKIIT places available last year may still be the case?
     
  5. If you want to teach adults (16+) you do not have to have a teaching qualification. Most Colleges of Technology do not require a teaching qualification, however they may insist you complete a Certificate in Education (FE) during your first few years of teaching. You can apply to colleges of further or higher education and teach on many of the professional courses such as Accounting, Marketing, Human Resourses. Many 6th forms will also not require a teaching qualification however ones attached to a school usually expect you to have QTS (Qualified Teacher Status).
    The other thing to take into consideration is the vast difference in salary. Starting salaries are similar however after a few years in FE you will be earning thousands of pounds less than that of a qualified teacher in a school.
    The other thing to consider is that most adult courses are in the evening. Few companies give day release for college courses.
     

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