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Teaching Assistants-I don't have one...

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by hulamaru, Aug 22, 2016.

  1. hulamaru

    hulamaru New commenter

    Just wanted to double check really that having a Teaching Assistant isn't a rule/ or a must have etc... I've been without one for a year and next year it looks to be the same again. I have spoken to my head about needing some extra support. I don't have a full class (15-17) mixed year groups but I do have a SATs year group and the extra help would be so good for English... Am I entitled to one in any way or just hope that one day it will change?

    Thank you
     
  2. Teaching_Tricks

    Teaching_Tricks Occasional commenter

    I work in secondary and TAs are like gold dust.... they are assigned to statemented children and work with them...

    Out of a 44/50 fortnightly TT - I "may" have a TA in 1 lesson if I am lucky!
     
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  3. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    You have no entitlement.

    If you want one then you'd better put forth a very persuasive argument. With a group of that size you'd have to have a high proportion of SEN pupils to convince anyone, I'm afraid.
     
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  4. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    You might find one mysteriously appears next Jan/Feb when it is clear your children might not all be on track to reach expected level!
     
  5. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Ha ha @CarrieV
    You're not wrong there!
     
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  6. GoGoTeacherArms

    GoGoTeacherArms Occasional commenter

    When I was in Year 6, I didn't have a TA. It's more than doable.

    However, my PPA and senior leadership time was covered incredibly effectively by a wonderful HLTA who would teach French and 'Thinking Skills' and then extra maths and English after Christmas.
     
  7. Dragonlady30

    Dragonlady30 Star commenter

    Funnily enough I had coffee with my former TA this morning. She's now spending most of her time as a cover supervisor. During the Ofsted inspection, suddenly she was not required to cover, but was needed as a TA where lessons where being observed.

    Funny that!! :confused:
     
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  8. hulamaru

    hulamaru New commenter

    Thanks- I thought that was the case... wishing and hoping hehe
     
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  9. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    Many schools seem to have cut back on TAs, and they are often targeted on children with specific learning difficulties. If you don't have any of these you probably won't get any help. Sorry.
     
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  10. cissy3

    cissy3 Star commenter

    And there's nothing wrong with that!

    It's such a shame that cuts are leading to so much more work for teachers, as if they didn't have enough already!

    (Although when I started, there were no such thing as TAs etc but then classes were smaller)
     
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  11. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    I have a fantasticTA with me for most of my lessons - she's like a second teacher in the classroom.
     
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  12. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Here we go. Memories from the Age of the Dinosaurs.

    I started with classes of 30. TA? Weren't no such animal.

    (Mind you, there weren't SATs either. Or OFSTED.)
     
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  13. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    We've all taught giant classes with no TA, but as the OP says... having on in English would make it easier.

    Yes his/her class is small, but with a mixed year class, a decent TA would still make it easier.

    (A SATs year could well be Rec/1/2 class which would definitely be easier with a TA!)
     
  14. Sinnamon

    Sinnamon Established commenter

    I fully understand your concerns. I think it's worth raising the issue with your SENCO or HT/SLT of you feel like children could be seriously disadvantaged. But, as earlier posters have said, with HTs keeping a close eye on budgets, it's unlikely they'll magic up a TA for you. At least, though, if you speak up now, you can pre-empt any future problems...
     
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  15. foxtail3

    foxtail3 Star commenter

    You have to determine the difference between specific support for SEN and more general classroom support, perhaps for a specific group or groups, or to be a general assistant. T

    I'm imagining this is a small school if there are mixed year groups. That, of course, brings constraints around the budget. My guess would be that there isn't the funding, particularly if there is no SEN in the class.
     
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  16. ValentinoRossi

    ValentinoRossi Star commenter

    When did it become expected to have a TA? Are they necessary? Genuine questions. I've taught for 35 years and have never had TA support.
     
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  17. Dragonlady30

    Dragonlady30 Star commenter

    Steady!! I'm a dragon, not a dinosaur!!!! :D
     
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  18. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Not always what they are cracked up to be!

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  19. tamtams

    tamtams New commenter

    So for 35 years you have never had any SEND children in your class?
     
  20. ValentinoRossi

    ValentinoRossi Star commenter

    :rolleyes:

    Of course I have.
     

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