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Teachers as role models

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Vince_Ulam, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Back before teaching became a graduate entry job every day was dedicated to influencing children for the better:


    Now, not so much:

  2. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    You don't' know much history, do you (if you believe that).
  3. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    I feel teachers are a role model these days...

    A role model of how to not have a happy working life!

    Seriously, kids pick up on it, the teacher slumped at the front over their books ticking and commenting away while the lesson happens elsewhere. Teaching Assistants play a more active role in many lesson these days than the teacher, swamped under paperwork as they are.
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  4. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Kids... do you want to be like this? In a job where you aren't appreciated, where you are blamed for everything that goes wrong, where new targets and expectations are piled up on top of you, where you can work as hard as you can, putting in hours beyond hours, sacrificing everything and still you'll be picked up for one tiny thing you missed, one fabricated piece of evidence, one minuscule error and then see your whole career thrown away because some people are so cowardly they hide behind redundant discredited management systems that would shame the Stazi or Gestapo?


    Thought not... do anything but teaching.
  5. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    It always struck me as ironic the way in recent years, pshe and tutor activities (for they too were prescribed) were often about soft skills and being a decent person, all fluffy stuff about the way things should be, but at the same time, the people delivering that stuff (I won't say teaching) were being bullied, having their experiences and ideas ignored, treated like a set of statistics rather than a human being etc.

    I felt like telling them that this was all carp and school was just an unrealistic bubble, except they probably knew that anyway as they saw how they were valued for their grades only and that nothing they did was ever good enough - ebi. ebi if Ofsted f**ked off and took their league tables with them.
  6. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    There's inherent contradictions in developing children as individual learners when you're being treated like a drone unit yourself, in encouraging children to report bullying when you're being bullied from above, and in asking children to express opinions when your own opinions are largely ignored.
  7. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    To slump head in hands in front of the students isn't really on is it?

    By that point you are almost definitely on your way out!

    The key I feel is the act... to act responsibly, the act as though you have all the answers even if you are still finding them, to act as if you are a behavioural specialist, social worker and perhaps even parent, and have the utmost care and attention to detail even if you are on the brink.

    Teaching *other than subject knowledge... these days is for the most part an act; having the look of confidence even if you feel unappreciated and sometimes undermined. The key is to keep up the act... until the challenges pass, if indeed pass it will; sometimes like a bolt from the blue others like a celiacs bread overdose.
  8. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    I assumed this represented a private moment.
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  9. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Ah ok then the woman in the picture can still be a role model and the question is still whether teachers should be role models or am I off the mark?
  10. rachelpaula008

    rachelpaula008 Star commenter

    What an excellent post. I would like to add -

    Encouraging children to be creative and take risks, when - in many cases - teachers' roles proscribe just that, in case we fail to deliver the curriculum.

    Encouraging children to take responsibility for their behaviour, when teachers are blamed for poor planning and delivery if a child kicks off.

  11. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    We are not given the time or the space any longer to be role models. Instead the trend is that teachers are expected to inspire interest in their subjects while hardly teaching it formally.
  12. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    I think teachers just need to be themselves as much as possible and if they are deemed successful professionals by students so be it, if said students want to model themselves on their teachers appropriate behaviour for example that shouldn't be a problem should it? I had wonderful role models in teaching; essentially none of them knew that they were my role models. We are professionals whether short of time or not. I don't think one has to work at being a role model it happens if and when appropriate. Nor should we be expected to be role models as this would just be another add on to an endless list of things we would be responsible for. That said I take on your point that there is little time to be concerned with such things on a full teaching timetable these days, and so would be inappropriate role models for young people to aspire to if they want a fulfilling work life balance.
  13. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    To paraphrase Charles Barkley (and a baseball player whose name I forget)...

    "Just because I'm good at teaching science, doesn't mean I should raise your kids"
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  14. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    I just love it when someone says things so succinctly when I just couldn't ;)

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