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Teacher Shortage reported on BBC breakfast

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Flere-Imsaho, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    1 in 4 Physics teachers in England only have A Level.
    It's the fault of teaching unions for talking down the job, according to the government.
    o_O
     
  2. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Yeah I heard that too... put a thread on education news [not a dig at you Flere].

    It's the end product of 5 years of government policy. This is what you reap when all you sow is ****.
     
  3. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    About to be discussed from 09.00 to 10.00 on R5Live
     
  4. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    I was more startled that it is getting reported on the BBC than the actual shortages. It was almost sympathetic to teachers.
     
  5. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    It has been going on for much longer than five years it started in FE back in the 90's.
     
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  6. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Aye true Lexus... 5 years is me being too generous to Labour.

    Blair and his love for Middle Managers/SLT/ data management etc played a role as well.
     
  7. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    Agreed.
    When Labour first got into power I thought (hoped) they would reverse the (bean counter and Inspection) measures put in place by the Tories, instead they increased the pressure on FE., via OfSTED and through funding mechanisms geared to spurious performance criteria which has done its job.
    FE is now a ghost of times past.
     
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  8. pixiewixiepixie

    pixiewixiepixie Occasional commenter

  9. pixiewixiepixie

    pixiewixiepixie Occasional commenter

    FE is a basket case now. So sad, because I used to love doing part time courses. I got into teaching by doing a part time TEFL course at a local college, which led to working abroad then doing a PGCE. I remember doing courses when the Internet took off on writing Web pages, brushing up skills in different programming languages and taking a Chinese course. The demise of these courses and not understanding that they can inspire people is so sad to see.
     
  10. TCSC47

    TCSC47 Star commenter

    Blair, spawn of Thatcher, introduced academies. The Nasty Party simply picked it up and gratefully ran with it as part of their dogma to reduce any involvement of government in actually running the country, in preference to setting up money making opportunities for their mates who line their pockets with dosh.

    A really really stupid thing that Brown did was PFIs (public funded initiatives) where society infrastructure was funded by loans from the banks and others, to hide public spending from the budget and the public. We will be paying off these loans for some considerable time.
     
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  11. TCSC47

    TCSC47 Star commenter

    I'm not exactly sure what I heard during one of the news summaries on the Breakfast show, but I think they reported that a Govt. statement said that part of the teacher shortage problem was the Unions badmouthing the education profession, undermining it, and giving us a poor reputation. Pot, Kettle, Black!!
     
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  12. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    Must correct you there - 28% have "no more than" A level. Some don't even have A level...
     
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  13. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    I was just repeating what they said.
    All these threads about motivating pupils to get into STEM - surely qualified and knowledgeable teachers would be a good step?
     
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  14. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    This is all true.
    I'm giving up my permanent p/t job and going on to supply as there is so much out there, if you are English/Maths/Science you can cherry pick and name your price.
    I'm already fully booked until end of academic year and earning a massive daily rate.
    OK, not permanent/sick pay/holiday pay but it more than covers that and I can choose where and when to work.
     
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  15. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    Not criticising you - it's just even worse than that statistic suggests!
     
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  16. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    I know, Middlemarch. I'm gobsmacked. I don't know how the Government can pretend that this isn't an important issue and fob us off with statements about the evil unions. And people still vote for them.
     
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  17. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    There is truth in this... I'm on supply [I'm off sick today before anyone says anything snide] and I'm earning more a week than I was permanent in post. I'm also getting experience of a core subject which means I'm increasing my attractiveness [and that's tough ... ego moment!] ...

    Obvious sick pay/holiday pay and pension suffers I fully accept this... but I think it just shows how messed up the system has become.
     
  18. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    Lanokia, this isn't personal but I think it's bonkers they let you teach English when you're a History specialist.

    I hope you feel better soon.
     
  19. wanet

    wanet Star commenter

    Before that in the case of Physics Teachers.
     
  20. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    I do get your point... but that's the reality of the system England has crafted.

    To be fair... I've been teaching English in some form as a subject since I started teaching 12 years ago. Just this is the first time it's been 100% English.
     
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