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Teacher fights student in class

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by hs9981, Nov 11, 2018.

  1. hs9981

    hs9981 Lead commenter

  2. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    It's heartening to see the donations on that page. There are some very small ones, from people who clearly can't afford very much but still feel they want to support in some way.

    I wish him well. No one deserves to ensure that level of abuse and violence.
     
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  3. tricolas

    tricolas New commenter

    A very sad state of affairs with this one:

    • The teacher's mental state to have lashed out like this
    • The student goading him so much
    • Nobody trying to diffuse the situation or appearing to get help
    • Everybody filming the incident and one boy going in for a much closer look
    Whilst the teacher is obviously provoked in to it, his reaction is not justified and massively OTT.
     
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  4. pepper5

    pepper5 Star commenter

    This is a terrible story and reminds me of the incident that happened eight years ago when a science teacher was deliberately provoked into lashing out against a student. The provocation was planned and was ready to be filmed.
     
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  5. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    Less so when you consider the violent attacks he's been subjected to in the past by students.
    It's utterly understandable. You can only push someone so far and clearly those in charge didn't do enough to protect him from such provocation, threats and violence.
     
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  6. Sanz1981

    Sanz1981 Occasional commenter

    Shocking.

    But the kid knows now not to give attitude to elders. Imagine if this was in London on the street and a youngster goading and elder consequences would be worse for the youngster.

    I’ve seen 14 yrs old squaring up to 25/30 asking for fights on the street and in school.

    It’ll teach the little sod not to square up to teachers.

    On the teachers side.
     
  7. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    I remember a pupil in my 'O' Level history class refusing to leave the room when told to, and fighting back when the teacher tried (& finally succeeded) to get him out of the room. The pupil never returned to that class...and the teacher left at the end of the year. That was 1973. So I guess pupils & teachers fighting isn't actually new...o_O
     
  8. BoldAsBrass

    BoldAsBrass Occasional commenter

    No it isn't. In the mid 80s one of my History teachers was provoked by one of the 'little big men' in school. The pupil lashed out when the teacher attempted to remove him from the room and it turned onto a nasty brawl between them both. Having said that, the teacher was defending rather than fighting back. Two other staff members came in to restrain the pupil. From what I remember the pupil was put into isolation and escorted by SLT everywhere for the next half-term. The teacher kept his job.

    It didn't put me off, but I went into Primary, just to be safe. However, they are getting younger! I was verbally chastised by an 8 year old only last week. He swiftly got the messaged, as he was instantly red carded and sent immediately to our learning mentor without hesitation. He came back with his tail between his legs and an apology and was golden for the rest of the day :)
     
  9. hhhh

    hhhh Star commenter

    But in 1973 this was not normally the case. In most schools, even in 'tough' areas where families had very little money, it was unusual for whole groups to be rude and most parents supported the staff.
    Also the head tended to support his teachers and not blame them for pupil misbehaviour.
    Sadly I worry that we'll see far more of these cases.
     
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  10. CWadd

    CWadd Star commenter

    Interesting that none of the students got their backsides out of those chairs to go and get help. Even more interesting that no other members of staff even seemed to hear what was going on. Or that any of those students actually had the balls to say to the provoker "shut up you dick."

    If I was an old cynic, I would argue that this was perhaps staged. To get money? Who knows.
     
  11. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    I think he was trying to call for help on his phone.

    He kept calm for a long while. It would probably have been best to ignore and ask someone trustworthy to go and get help.
     
  12. CWadd

    CWadd Star commenter

    Definitely. He was certainly trying to stay calm, and I do feel sorry for the poor man. But I also feel that those students sitting there are culpable, as one of them should have got up, walked out, and found someone. Or someone had got up, taken the offensive little ***** who was abusing him, and kicked him out the door.

    TBH, I would have just walked out. The kid can shout after me and call me whatever he likes. A stupid little dick like that is not worth sacrificing a career or spending time in prison for.
     
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