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Discussion in 'Personal' started by lanokia, Apr 4, 2016.
Just seen this, by the way:
If Britain leaves the EU, then their sole real advocate for membership has gone.
More problems for Merkel over this:
This is getting worryingly sick.
A Dutch journalist was blocked from leaving Turkey on Sunday following her arrest on Saturday night for tweets deemed critical of the Turkish president,Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.
“Police at the door. No joke,” wrote Ebru Umar on her Twitter account.
Umar, a well-known atheist and feminist journalist of Turkish origin, recently wrote a piece criticising Erdoğan for the Dutch daily Metro, extracts of which she then tweeted, leading to her arrest. After her arrest in the resort town of Kusadasi in western Turkey, where she was on holiday, Dutch officials said, she was brought before a judge.
She later said she was “free but forbidden to leave the country”.
Dutch blog Geenstijl said it received a message from Umar saying that she had been arrested after someone reported her tweets on a hotline set up by Turkish officials.
Maybe I shouldn't post this... don't want to upset Tayyib. Might hurt his feelings.
We need to make it clear to the sultan that he's taking Turkey decades from EU membership each time he acts in this way...
Strange how this doesn't seem to interest either side of the EU debate... EU nations arresting citizens for criticising non-EU leaders...
Here's a way to hit back at the pasha:
Be rude about him & win £1000!
President Erdogan... smells like the back of a ram...
President Erdogan... less appetising than ham...
Oh Tayyib Oh Tayyib... so desperate to prove you're man...
Nah, poetry was never my strong suit.
More journalists arrested in Erdogan's Turkey...
14 months for a former Miss Turkey for insulting Tayyib [****]
Her sentence was suspended on condition she doesn't repeat the act for 5 years... free speech? Yeah...
And of course a while back he lifted Parliament's immunity from prosecution... mostly so he can prosecute the pro-Kurdish opposition [the Kurds being the people he's waging a war against and has at minimum committed crimes against humanity, if not genocide]
Tayyib Erdogan is an insult to the Turkish nation.
They do. But that does not make EU membership any closer. Despite the UK advocating for Turkey's membership for 25 years, France, Germany, Greece and Cyprus are totally against it.
And long may that continue [as long as Tayyib is in charge at least]
Merkel and Tusk clearly really want to stay on the good side of Turkey, as they are acting as Europe's waste disposal and I'm sure bringing them under the EU umbrella is an eventual goal but at the moment it's just completely unfeasible. Turkey clearly won't budge on anything - and Turkey's democratic 'problems' are common knowledge. It would be a PR disaster to allow them any concessions - the equivalent of inviting North Korea in to the common market.
Is he, or is he wholly representative?
No... No I don't think he is... since his rise to power Turkey has become more despotic, less democratic and more unstable in foreign policy terms.
I have a lot of time for the Turkish nation, people and culture.... but not [as I hope this thread has made clear] Erdogan.
Now Tayyib is upset because the Germans have dared call the murder of 1.5 million people Genocide...
Now if only someone could stop Tayyib emulating his Ottoman predecessors in the Kurdish regions.
He has a great name though.
Rechipp Type Erdoowan.
Seems the USA is having problems with Turkey too... probably something to do with Turkey tacitly supporting ISIS and being hard on the Kurds...
Tayyib, all the wrong friends in all the wrong places.
The EU threw 3 billion Euros at Turkey last November, agreed to make it easier for Turkish nationals to get visas and ease the difficulties for them to join the EU - and all because the EU is incapable of any coherent action to manage the influx of refugess and migrants itself.
Turkey is laughing all the way to the bank and paying no more than lip service to its commitment on migrants.