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Support plan advice

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by Lalex123, Nov 7, 2015.

  1. Lalex123

    Lalex123 Senior commenter

    I'm looking for advice. I have been teaching for over 15 years in the same school and been commented on throughout inspections and observations as being an excellent teacher. I have been promoted several times related to my teaching skills but have had an observation go wrong and now I am 2 weeks into a support plan which has been going fine up until a recent observation with a class with a particular reputation for poor behaviour. SLT want to observe me with this year 7 class again as 1 student didn't make progress at all in the lesson. I have asked all the relevant members of staff for advice but nothing particularly helpful has arisen that I haven't already tried. I want to move schools but there are no jobs in my subject, and haven't been really for the past 3 years. All jobs state MPS on the TES and I am on the UPS.

    I am looking for advice on my next steps. I feel apprehensive about this support plan and am worried they have found a reason to get rid of me and employ a cheaper teacher. I don't want to continue working in an environment like this but there are no other teaching jobs that I can move to. What would you do in my situation and how can I guarantee my applications (if jobs do appear) are noticed? Also, if I took a drop in salary, how would that reflect on my application?

  2. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Which means that

    after one observation shouldn't be happening for starters. Where on Earth is the objectivity in that? It is far beyond being the dumbest thing a manager could ever do. One observation! I used to call these people idiots but that word is becoming unsuitable.

    I suspect you are right and that they wish to remove you for a cheaper model. It's becoming a very frequent type of post on here. It doesn't reflect on you , but it does show that your school managers are completely incompetent. To be put on a support plan after one observation in successful career is completely and utterly criminal.

    There are plenty of posters better placed than me, such as Theo and GLsGhost who will give you very good advice shortly... I hope things work out...
    midnight_angel likes this.
  3. pepper5

    pepper5 Star commenter

    Others will be along soon to offer advice, but contact your union on Monday if you haven't already since you need support and specialist advice from a legal point of view. Contact the regional advisor not the school representative.

    If you need someone to talk to in confidence, you can also contact the Teacher Support Network ( sorry I don't know how to post their details, but if you Google for their contact details they are easy to find).

    Sorry to hear of another teacher caught up in utter lunacy; how can a teacher of 15 years experience be put on a support plan for one student not making progress in a poorly behaving class?
    TailwindTurner likes this.
  4. Veerwal

    Veerwal New commenter

    Re. Your MPS/UPS question; in my experience it might say MPS in the ad but I would still apply for the jobs. It will state on your application form which pay scale you're on and I would apply, get an interview and when they say you are successful I would say you would only accept the post if they pay you on your old UPS. I know interviews and the preparation for it is stressful but it really sounds like you could do with a change of school. We have got similar situations going on in our school and people are leaving left right and centre,... Including me. Good luck.
  5. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter


    I'm very sorry that you are in such a difficult situation, @Lalex123 . Very upsetting for you.

    You should consult your local/ regional union, not your school rep, as @pepper5 rightly says.

    MPS just means that there is no TLR attached. So the pay could go to UPS. However . .

    However there is now no pay portability, so they could offer you whatever they see fit.

    No problem with your application, as you don't have to mention it. If they interview you, they will decide what they are willing to pay, and offer you that.

    No more Pay Portability, no more pay scale, no more automatic moving up the scale.

    So your UPS is no barrier to applying for a job, just might be a problem if you don't want to accept a job at the salary that they are willing to pay.

    If you are very distressed you should contact the Teacher Support. 24/7 support by e-mail, phone, chatline. Worth giving it a try.

    Stay strong

    Best wishes

    pepper5 likes this.
  6. Lalex123

    Lalex123 Senior commenter

    Thanks for all your replies. I am wary of getting the union involved as they haven't been much help to other staff that have been on support plans, and advice given was to take a settlement which is not what I want. Ideally I would like to pass my plan and find a new job but there seems to be very few in my area at the moment so I shall call the union and just wait and see what happens...
  7. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter


    If you ever do decide to go for that, please read this very carefully:

    Settlement Agreements

    Best wishes

    pepper5 likes this.
  8. pepper5

    pepper5 Star commenter

    Maybe you could pass your plan and a job could come along...maybe in a different subject. Take Theo's advice and read the link she gives. You can see what the union says, but you can investigate other options. Try to investigate everything before you decide since you want to be in the strongest possible position - try to stay strong until you get things resolved to put you in the best position.
  9. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    [QUOTE="Lalex123, post: 11486893, member: 6640477"I have been promoted several times related to my teaching skills but have had an observation go wrong and now I am 2 weeks into a support plan which has been going fine up until a recent observation with a class with a particular reputation for poor behaviour. SLT want to observe me with this year 7 class again as 1 student didn't make progress at all in the lesson. [/QUOTE]

    It may too late now, but I'd wonder how it was concluded that this one child 'didn't make progress' during that single lesson - can you challenge the judgement? What evidence was given? It seems very woolly to me, esp. as they seem unable to help you with advice.
  10. Bajan-night

    Bajan-night Occasional commenter

    As part of your 'support' plan, you should request observing 'outstanding' teachers teaching. I would ask a member of SLT to come and teach your class.
    Dragonlady30 and Veerwal like this.
  11. Bajan-night

    Bajan-night Occasional commenter

    Also, OFSTED have said that they do not expect to see all children make progress within a lesson.
  12. Lalex123

    Lalex123 Senior commenter

    The student who didn't make progress is known to the SENCO and other staff as she is extremely shy and refuses to talk or follow instructions, write in her book etc. It has been logged before the observation but I was told there is nothing that can be done as we are short on TAs and she doesn't have a statement.
  13. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Sorry it has nothing to do with the pupil... they are just the excuse you are being fed.

    You're too expensive. And you've been in one school too long.

    Both of these are seen as signs of weakness by the new breed of SLT. So sorry for your situation. Get out, get out ASAP... They will only make things worse for you.
    Dragonlady30 likes this.
  14. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    The pupil thing is complete rubbish. These people should be driven from the profession. Why don't they try moving the child instead of pulling out all the stops to sack an experienced member of staff.

    Idiots. Complete idiots.
    Dragonlady30 and FolkFan like this.
  15. Compassman

    Compassman Star commenter

    This kind of thing gets me so angry.

  16. drek

    drek Star commenter

    The support will be meaningless, if the goal is to give your job to someone cheaper.
    At first you go along and implement every superficial POA they come up with. Usually by someone with less behaviour management experience than yourself, because they are able to 'put on' an ofsted approved lesson.
    If your observers pass you, they will say that they need to 'confirm' it again. A sort of 2 out of 3 shake of the dice. If they don't it means they are giving you a tiny piece of breathing space.
    In the meantime, they will reset groups, making sure you get the worst behaviour offenders in every year group you teach to stack things in their favour, retrain their 'observers' on what type of things they 'must not' give a pass for.
    Then the next round starts. They will arrange an observation last period of the day in the last two days of term... Lets call it the 'management special' and tell you how supportive they are being...
    Seems to be a school management benchmark, or industry standard. I think it is one of the 'modules' that new HT's have to pass to get on the next rung of their ladder.
    So don't wait to be the next victim on the altar of their undignified scramble to the top of the pay spine.
    Good luck. Look out for 'its not me, its them' speeches from your line managers.
    Compassman likes this.
  17. Morninglover

    Morninglover Star commenter

    Something you can try once or twice is - should you be told at very short notice (esp. at/near end of term) about an observation - is to plead a sudden illness and go home sick. If the school plays rough with you, do the same with them....
    Dragonlady30 and Compassman like this.

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