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Supply Agencies don't want me...

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by anon2047, Aug 10, 2011.

  1. Hi,
    I am a Secondary ICT NQT and have no job for September. I registered (supposedly) with an agency who were going to fast track me and were confident on getting me work. I was told to take my mobile with me on holiday as I was going out of the country, and they would forward any interview dates. I also took my laptop and checked it daily. To my surprise, a job was emailed from the alert service (not the agency) and I emailed them immediately asking them to put me forward. To cut a long story short, when I got home they didn't know me, they made a registration appt then cancelled. I have seen jobs I am qualified for, long term that would enable me to get my QTS, I have tried to register on the agency websites - 6 in total so far, chased people up, emailed and no one is interested.
    I telephoned one this morning, and applied for 4 jobs on agency websites, and was told that 'I'm not from this branch you will have to email'.
    Am I cursed? I am a very hard worker and willing to travel, yet I cannot even get onto a supply agencies books.
    Please could someone suggest why, or should I just shoot myself now?!
    Thanks
    Jaime
     
  2. Hi,
    I am a Secondary ICT NQT and have no job for September. I registered (supposedly) with an agency who were going to fast track me and were confident on getting me work. I was told to take my mobile with me on holiday as I was going out of the country, and they would forward any interview dates. I also took my laptop and checked it daily. To my surprise, a job was emailed from the alert service (not the agency) and I emailed them immediately asking them to put me forward. To cut a long story short, when I got home they didn't know me, they made a registration appt then cancelled. I have seen jobs I am qualified for, long term that would enable me to get my QTS, I have tried to register on the agency websites - 6 in total so far, chased people up, emailed and no one is interested.
    I telephoned one this morning, and applied for 4 jobs on agency websites, and was told that 'I'm not from this branch you will have to email'.
    Am I cursed? I am a very hard worker and willing to travel, yet I cannot even get onto a supply agencies books.
    Please could someone suggest why, or should I just shoot myself now?!
    Thanks
    Jaime
     
  3. SUPER.SUPPLY

    SUPER.SUPPLY New commenter

    Oh you poor thing. Firstly, don't shoot yourself!


    Secondly, whatever you do don't rely on getting a job through agencies, especially when they don't know you or how you work yet.

    Don't lose hope at the moment, times are hard. Which region do you live in? Agencies are 2 a penny now and it would also help to know where you are in order for people to recommend an agency to you.

    Keep your eyes out on your local council website for teaching jobs too.
     
  4. les25paul

    les25paul Star commenter

    Some of the less Honest agencies will have jobs advertised on their website which do not eally exist. I once enquired about a post on a site and they admitted it was just to get people interested and signing with them.
    There are some good agencies out there with competent staff but also a large number of weak ones run by monkeys.
    Try Teaching Personnel, they have been arounda long time and know what they are doing.

     
  5. emmadrg

    emmadrg New commenter

    Reed sent me an email yesterday saying that my application for a Science supply teacher position had been unsuccessful. I emailed for feedback and they have asked me to send in my CV again.
    What does annoy me is that before I was on a short-term contract, the two agencies I was with would ring me up in early Feb asking for my availability, as they were desperate for teachers. It's all crazy [​IMG]
     
  6. Hi,
    Thanks for all of the replies. I haven't shot myself...Yet!
    All i have done is sit in front of my PC 24/7 scouring agencies and council websites and any possible avenue that would lead to a job. It is absolutely soul destroying...
    I live in the Yorkshire area, and am so cross that there 'appear' to be jobs I can go for on these websites, but no one seems to be interested. I know it is probably very naive, but I really did not think that some of them could have been 'invented'.
    The agency you mention have been one of the worst offenders!!
    I really do not know what to do next...
     
  7. I have a recruitment background - although not education recruitment, some of the 'tricks of the trade' of even the more reputable agencies would make your hair curl! Yes, often 'fake' jobs will be used to pull in candidates but even if a vacancy is 'real' it may well be that the agency are not contracted by the employer to actually recruit for it, or are even welcome to submit candidates if it is not contracted to one agency.
    Obviously agencies charge large fee's on top of your cost, so the best route (even if not the easiest), especially for mid - long term work is always approaching the school directly. This way you know there is a real job and that your cost is transparent. Applying for a mid - long term job through an agency means that even if you are a great candidate that the school would ordinarily consider you may be rejected as costing over the odds - agency terms and conditions would then prevent you from being considered as a direct applicant as they put you forward initially.
    Catch 22!
     
  8. Interesting...This happened to me yesterday afternoon:
    I rang up an agency that was advertising jobs, only to be told they had 'gone' although they had just appeared on the website. for a fee of £50.00 I had to have a new CRB check as they coulnd not accept anything less than 3 months old.
    I then receieved an email response to the jobs I had applied for earlier (with the same agency) with the message:
    'Your message was deleted without being read'
    Needless to say i have cancelled my appointment and am devastated...
     
  9. emmadrg

    emmadrg New commenter

    Oh no! Sorry to hear about your experiences. I should really have a new CRB done as mine runs out in April. And they only cost £44 so refuse to pay any more than that.
    Which agency did you contact? Send me a message to my inbox. I'm in Yorkshire as well so we might be able to help each other out.
    I have resent my CV to Reed but heard nothing back from them since Wednesday. If they still won't take me on I will demand a bloody good reason why!
     
  10. I applied to Reed, last year. They gave me an interview date, then cancelled it, asking me to contact them again to rearrange another date. I contacted them a few times, (the person to whom you need to speak is busy; they will phone you back) but there was no response, so i gave up on them.
     
  11. HI there,
    I will tell you one of the problems. There are, (I'm sorry to say), an awful lot of teachers, NQTs and established teachers, without posts and are applying for supply.
    In some cases the agencies have too many to administrate and they already have lists of teachers who are established and have references from the schools they have worked for. It isn't always the case that they don't want you its a case of they can't cope with you.
    The only way I can see this situation getting better is if they cancel the teacher training programme for a couple of years there are too many out there training for jobs that don't exist. Any NQT who has qualified in the last year has been conned by the government.
     
  12. Same thing happened to me, TP cancelled my appointment and i couldn't get another for love nor money!
    Very sad, I wouldn't mind so much if they were at least honest about the whole thing!
     
  13. The same thing happened to me with TP, appointments cancelled - then told they had put 5 people forward for a job I could do at a school I knew and they were in a completely different specialism!
    I wouldn't mind so much if people were at least honest with me.
     
  14. I, too, have had a similar experience with TP: they seem very keen to get you in to register but then cry off. I was actually 'cold-called' by one of TP's London offices, which arranged an interview date. When I turned up, I was told that the person who was down to interview me was not in the office and that I would be contacted with a new date. You can guess the rest! [​IMG]
     
  15. emmadrg

    emmadrg New commenter

    Further to the hoo-ha I had with Reed, I am now signed up with them at a rate of £130 a day. My consultant is confident that he can get me work (probably after half term, he admitted it was slow up until then) and I'm lucky in that I can offer two shortage subjects.
    I don't know how much to believe of what he said but he did stress that he was turning a lot of teachers down (including NQTs) because he didn't want too many of one particular subject in one area. He felt I had a lot of unique selling points and that he would be marketing me out to schools in my area next week.
    The original mix up was due to an intern who didn't understand that different areas had different schools needs and stuff (or something like that).
    Fingers crossed.
    Still not heard anything from two other agencies I have made contact with, one of which used to get me loads of work.
     
  16. teachur

    teachur New commenter

    If said mentioned agency is REED, they are an abomination and an AWFUL, unprofessional and badly organised company. This time last year, I had been sitting waiting to start a term of supply for them, having been turning other offers of work away.

    Then all of a sudden they decided they didn't have all the information they wanted on file for me (something they COULD have been sorting 2 months prior when I signed up) and, as a consequence, they decided eventually, the day before a job was due to start, that I would not be on that job. That was for a term...cost me a small fortune as my other agencies had put my name to "unavailable" for a term, hence not bothered searching!

    However, supply agencies are AGENCIES, run by sales staff who will sign you up under many false pretences. Make sure you never pay anything out to them, pay for anything like CRB checks and so forth, until you have work from them.

    Also, and this is VERY important - remember that your pay will depend on your experience, and what the school is willing to pay the agency, so the agency pass your chunk on to you. Make sure YOU are being paid what YOU feel you deserve...don't let an agency cream off more for themselves. (In Birmingham, their are agencies based in the city who operate within strict pay guidelines and give fairer pay to YOU).
     
  17. Oh dear! I really like Reed, they have got me more work since I was made redundant at Easter than any of the others I signed up with. The agent I deal with is really nice, however, I'm aware the smile is the smile of a salesperson - none of them are to be trusted. All the agencies advertise jobs that don't really exist, they all welcome you like a long lost sister and claim they can find you work but in reality there is none out there and they are worried about their own jobs. I've been feeling really hard done by but reading this thread I guess I've been lucky. I like day to day supply (after 15 years of secondary RE teaching) it's something different every time. I've done primary, nursery and school office admin - if I could get work everyday I think I would prefer it to a "proper" job. The main reason I think I got work was I said I was prepared to do anything - if I had been subject specific I wouldn't have got much at all.
     
  18. £130 is a pretty good rate at the moment.
     
  19. Same situation here - I'm registered with around 6 agencies and have another registration booked in for next week. The majority of the posts they advertise don't exist which was extremely annoying when I first started applying and didn't realise it! They do tend to promise you the world and then disappear completely but until the job market improves I guess we don't have a choice...
     
  20. I still haven't been able to register with anyone...Trust me when I say that i do not have two heads, am purple and speak fluent alien!
    I think it is just the way of the world at the minute. I am devastated, but hopefully in a few months time we will be back on here and we will all have jobs! we will, we will, WE WILL!
     

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