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Stupid has a special place... recruitment crisis news!

Discussion in 'Personal' started by lanokia, Mar 3, 2016.

  1. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter


    A Scottish teaching union has come up with a radical solution to reduce staffing shortages: make teachers work longer.

    An increase in weekly contracted hours from 35 to 37.5, if accompanied by a proportional pay rise of just over 7 per cent, could solve three crises at a stroke, believes Greg Dempster, general secretary of AHDS, which represents primary-school leaders.

    He says that Scottish schools are suffering from: a lack of core teachers and supply staff; the knock-on impact on development time for school leaders; and “the fact that no one has had a decent pay rise for years”.

    Yup, teachers should be made to work for longer... that'll make the job more attractive.

    Who elected this ill-informed *****? Scottish posters... who picked him? Argh I'm going to wander off and headbutt a wall till the stupid I just read drops out of my poor noggin.
  2. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    you need to exit the Uk as a nation before the corruption of England spreads to your system :)
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  3. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    as I have said once before the Scots sytem is going down the pan. Here is one piece of evidence for it.
  4. Billie73

    Billie73 Occasional commenter

    Does that mean teaching for longer each day, or non-contact at the end of the day? If non-contact doesn't that mean we'd be paid for hours we'd be working anyway?
    wanet likes this.
  5. sabrinakat

    sabrinakat Star commenter

    Maybe throw the idiot against the wall instead? :eek:
    lanokia likes this.
  6. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    If it goes anything like the English system they'll just make-work a solution to take up the time. You won't actually get the extra time. Meetings, revision sessions, PRP ****... it'll pile up.
  7. anotherauntsally

    anotherauntsally Lead commenter

    As it's a head teachers' union, I assume he was picked by other heads and depute heads.
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  8. Billie73

    Billie73 Occasional commenter

    Oh joy.
  9. jacob

    jacob Lead commenter

    I bet Scottish teachers work up to 100 hours a week like English ones have to in order to fill in all the made up pointless statistical non-correlatable nonsense.

    Pay all teachers pro rata for what they work then.
  10. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

    Trouble is that the pay rise would probably be proportionate, but would be clawed back within 5 years by below inflation cost of living increases.
    delnon likes this.
  11. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    There are no supply staff because LAs decided to stop paying scale and reduce short term supply rates to a pittance, wiping hundreds of retired teachers off the supply register because it wasn't worth their while for £35 a day.

    The 37.5 hours would essentially mean Primary teachers wouldn't need "McCrone" cover (like PPA time.) LAs have already tried to sneak in unqualified teachers to cover this and it was rejected.

    TES seem to have a habit of interviewing nonentities and making it sound like a huge issue at the moment.
  12. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    That's what they get? That's all?

    That is a f****** scandal!
  13. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    Basically, for the first five days (now reduced to three days), they get paid on point 1 of the pay scale for the class contact hours only. The idea was that such short time supply needs no planning or marking time. Breaks, lunch and "trapped time" didn't count.

    Some schools (where they could get supply) would use them for three days, chopping amd changing so that they never had to put anyone on the higher rate. In other places, schools give the higher rate from day one simply because nobody would do it otherwise.

    The unions rolled over on it for a guarantee overall teacher numbers wouldn't drop.
  14. cissy3

    cissy3 Star commenter

    I always got the impression that the Scottish ed system was far more sane than the English one, but it looks as if they have caught its madness.

    I'm horrified, but not surprised.
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  15. applecrumblebumble

    applecrumblebumble Lead commenter

    On that basis pay us the money you have stolen (15% cut in real terms) by the pay freeze and lower than inflation pay rise. After that pay teachers for all the hours they already do already or get rid of all the rubbish that is not necessary.
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  16. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    It is more sane. We have some work to do to keep it that way but TES really are reporting the oddest of stories. They weren't running round interviewing union leaders when all the above happened and entirely missed the McCormac review and the subsequent rejection of many of its worst ideas.
    cissy3 likes this.
  17. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    I don't think the story reflects any madness in the Scottish system...

    Just a warning sign that the idiocy that has consumed England can easily spread north of the border.
    cissy3 and delnon like this.

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