When I was at school in the eighties/early nineties I can't remember hearing anyone tell a teacher to F off. You'd hear word on the grapevine that someone in another class/year had done it. Along with tales of the hefty consequences imposed etc. When I started teaching in 2004 there seemed to be slippery characters in management trying to muddy the waters. For example a focus on was the child swearing directly at you or swearing about the situation? Or was the child swearing at you or were they talking to their friend? (I remember being told a child was swearing at their friend not me, so a lesser sanction was going to be set, even though the child had said "f off you bald, bearded c**t". Even though the friend apparently being spoken to was neither bald or bearded like I was!). Then there was the wonderful and empowering system of witness statements from students. This meant totally rotten groups controlled by mean spirited bullies just got worse as they collectively had the power to convince the powers at be that the teacher was lying about them for no reason! Now it seems telling a teacher to F off means you set the kid a detention and contact home. Hence on long term supply you are adding an extra hour on your day because someone has chosen to abuse you. A system guaranteed to lead to teachers developing selective hearing! I'm sure in the real world telling your boss to F off is still a sackable offence. However many schools seem to be setting students up for a life of disappointment by not sending out the clear message that verbal abuse will not be tolerated. Or is it just different rules for supply teachers who seek some redress? Is swearing at staff still a big thing in other schools or is it just the ones I've worked at that see it as no big deal? Also do other schools also use an ADHD diagnosis or 'a lot going on outside of school' as mitigating circumstances? And are the 25-30 other kids in the room, whom which these events are always played out in front of ever told the reason why it is ok for their classmate to behave like that but not them? When I was at school if we all saw one kid getting minimal sanctions for verbally abusing a teacher I'm sure we'd have all been on the bandwagon!