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Steve Bell cartoon censored - yes, it's "anti-Semitism" again!

Discussion in 'Personal' started by MAGAorMIGA, Jul 17, 2019.

  1. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    The Guardian has censored Steve Bell's latest "If..." cartoon, in which Tom Watson is depicted as the Antisemitism Finder-General. Bell's letter to the Guardian on the subject is priceless (next post):
    Steve Bell cartoon censored by Guardian.png
     
  2. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    Now here's his letter (in two parts):
    Steve Bell letter to Guardian editor re censored cartoon..jpg Steve Bell letter - 2.png
     
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  3. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    This is getting deeply worrying. When you consider how Steve Bell's cartoons have never been afraid to offend people's sensibilities, suddenly we now find ourselves in an era when the Guardian has an editorial line - that Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour Party are anti-Semitic - that can be breached by no one, including Steve Bell. We truly are in a new era of press censorship, and one wonders what will come next.
     
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  4. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    And Bell's points - that the Guardian refused to publish his cartoon, but DID publish an advertisement misleadingly containing the Labour Party logo paid for by disaffected Lords (I wonder if Corbyn's promise to abolish the House of Lords has any bearing here?); and that the letter on which there was a thread on here from over 100 prominent Jews supporting Corbyn was whisked off the website PDQ - are telling ones. The desperation to remove Corbyn from power, and the willingness to employ entirely false accusations of racism and anti-Semitism in order to do so, is a challenge to our democracy and free press.
     
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  5. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Because one or more of the signatories had not agreed to put their name to it.
     
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  6. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    You think he has power? The man in permanent hiding. The man who speaks through proxies.
     
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  7. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    Question: What could Corbyn say or tweet that would lose the support of his base?
     
  8. BillyBobJoe

    BillyBobJoe Established commenter

    "I hate Jews" or other evidence of anti-semitism would certainly do it. Unlike Trumpers we actually have principles.
     
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  9. Nanook_rubs_it

    Nanook_rubs_it Star commenter

    I’m certain he would have lost them long before we heard chants of ‘send them home’ at the Durham Miner’s Gala...
     
  10. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    When you hear Baroness Hayter (appropriate name) compare Jeremy Corbyn, her party leader, to Hitler; and when Jeremy Hunt says that visiting Auschwitz reminded him of Corbyn, and there is a scintilla of truth in either calumny, that's when Corbyn's base will be lost. What I see at the moment is a campaign of vilification so vicious, so unhinged and so extreme that it long ago ceased to bear any resemblance to reality at all. Corbyn is the victim of a frenzied witchhunt.
     
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  11. Spoofer4114

    Spoofer4114 Occasional commenter

    "You just grab em by the p#ssy" is a definite no no.

    For decent folk anyway.
     
  12. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    Corbyn is the victim of his own inability to show any kind of leadership.
     
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  13. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

    Claims of antisemitism to stop the slightest criticism of a state via its figurehead.
     
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  14. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    So you're arguing that the claims of antisemitism are in themselves a conspiracy by Jews [as in the state of Israel]?

    Amazing how many conspiracies those Jews get themselves into... and how easy it is for people to slip into antisemitic sentiments...
     
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  15. Spoofer4114

    Spoofer4114 Occasional commenter

    State of this.

    I didn't think they allowed trolling on this site. It takes a special type of person to find anti-semitism in such an innocuous statement.
     
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  16. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    That he's not going to reopen the coal mines.
     
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  17. afterdark

    afterdark Lead commenter

    Conspiracy, your word. You then assign agency to one particular group of people, namely people of one religion. How racist of you.

    Extract from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Israel
    The religious affiliation of the Israeli population as of 2019 was 74.2% Jewish, 17.8% Muslim, 2.0% Christian, and 1.6% Druze, with the remaining 4.4% including faiths such as Samaritanism and Baha'iism, and irreligious people with no faith.


    Then there is the conflation, state of Israel and Jews.

    Just so you know
    state ≠ a particular religion.

    As much certain states want to be synonymous with one religion or other, a state is not a religion. Nor should we ever allow states to hide behind a religion. Otherwise we could have terrible atrocities will be commited and those that expose these atrocities labelled racist (using the conflation of race and religion in some countries).

    And then after you false conflation of state = religion, you jump to insinuations of bigotry.

     
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  18. blue451

    blue451 Lead commenter

    The antisemitism accusations serve several aims, as most of us are aware. Siliencing.criticism of Israel, undermining a socialist leader, for the peers there's also the issue of Corbyn's desire to get rid the house of lords.

    I'm looking forward to hearing Hodge or any of the other main.players here speaking up about the escalation of racist dialogue and smears in the US.
     
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  19. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    I would prefer to cut out and replace the rot in our own political parties first, and then try to address the rot in other countries.
     
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