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"Statistics" : The average age of death of a teacher...!?!?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Jimmo, Feb 23, 2004.

  1. I remember being at school as a pupil and someone telling me that teachers die young due to stress.

    On a recent GTP lecture, a successfull head of an EBD schooltold us the following alarming statistics...

    The average age of life expectancy for a head teacher who retires at the age of 60 is 18 months

    The divorce / relationship break up rate for teachers is higher than any other profession.

    The average age of death of a teacher who retires at 60 is 63.


    a colleague who resigned recently quoted identical statistics.

    These stats schocked me. Everyone I've told tells me it's nonsense, but where did they come from?

    Is there a shred of truth in these statistics?

    If these are true, then I will seriously consider quitting. But surely they are not true!?!?!

    The source of these statistics and any other opinions on this matter would be really helpful.

    Thanks!
     
  2. I remember being at school as a pupil and someone telling me that teachers die young due to stress.

    On a recent GTP lecture, a successfull head of an EBD schooltold us the following alarming statistics...

    The average age of life expectancy for a head teacher who retires at the age of 60 is 18 months

    The divorce / relationship break up rate for teachers is higher than any other profession.

    The average age of death of a teacher who retires at 60 is 63.


    a colleague who resigned recently quoted identical statistics.

    These stats schocked me. Everyone I've told tells me it's nonsense, but where did they come from?

    Is there a shred of truth in these statistics?

    If these are true, then I will seriously consider quitting. But surely they are not true!?!?!

    The source of these statistics and any other opinions on this matter would be really helpful.

    Thanks!
     
  3. The statistics you quote are terrifying, they are putting teacher`s life expectancy nearly 20 years lower than others. I find it hard to believe, if true the pension fund wouldn`t be feeling any strain. I hope to be teaching `til 65, so I`ll thwart the stats. , but maybe there will be a new stat. dying at the chalkboard, or rather interactive whiteboard. At one school I supply, there`s a supply aged 73. So maybe there`s something in keeping going.
     
  4. I too have heard these statistics but don't know where they have come from. I will, however take them with a pinch of salt until I actually see where they have come from as I do find them somewhat exaggerated. What about the life expectancy of those in the health service, police force, fire service - the irregularity of their working life can't have a good affect on their health? I also heard that the police force share the medal for the highest rate of divorce.I have older family members who are still in teaching and nearing 60 but albeit tired, arerelatively healthy. If it is true then lets all get out now!
     
  5. madasahatter

    madasahatter New commenter

    Very scary!
    I know a SENCo who retired at the end of last term and died in the Xmas hols... some retirement!!

    I read somewhere that teaching is considered to be as highly stressful as some of the "dangerous" professions such as police force.
     
  6. Well,Iknow plenty of Policemen and they workless hours as they do no work at home.

    I think finding the source ofthese stats is essential.
     

  7. Well,Iknow plenty of Policemen and they workless hours as they do no work at home.

    AND in any stressful situation/confrontataion they are with at least one colleague (usually more) and have radio back-up.

    I actually think many memebers of the police-force would NOT be able to deal with difficult kids en masse. One teacher with a class of thirty teenagers to teach, when at least seven of the group are loud and unruly (and their behaviour is having a knock-on effect on the rest of the class)has an incredibly stressful situation to cope with for at least an hour. He or she could then walk into exactly the same situation with the next class he or she had to teach. So many big comprehensives are incredibly stressful places.

    How many of us feel completely drained at the end of the day and have little time for our families when we get in? How many of us are up to a night's socialising after a day at the chalk-face (whiteboard) ? I know I am not...
    Coppers on the night shift, sitting in their cars scoffing, having just spent half an hour wandering around an all-night Tescos for goodies, laughing and joking with the staff etc, (I see this quite often when I do a late-night shop) have it EASY by comparison. I am quite envious! ;-)
     
  8. I remember these stats from some years ago...maybe 3 years ago?...but I don't know where from. A teachers' union?
     
  9. Never heard of these stats at all, unlike most others on here. Wouldn't be surprised though. Feel like it ought to say 30s at the moment!
     
  10. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Lead commenter

    I think I've seen these stats before on here somewhere. I don't think they just referred to Heads.
     
  11. Andy_91

    Andy_91 New commenter

    Urban myth - it's ****. Probably macho posturing by a Head. Bluenose's parliamentary reply is way more likely to be right.

    Air traffic controllers remain more stressed than us too.
     
  12. Andy_91

    Andy_91 New commenter

    On the other hand:

    In 1985 The Sunday Times commissioned a study by Professor Cary Cooper about stress in the workplace. In 1997 the paper commissioned a further study and it quickly became apparent that almost every job in Britain had become more stressful than it had been just over a decade previously. The 1997 study found that the most stressful occupations were: the prison service, the police, social work and teaching, closely followed by a whole range of NHS jobs including nursing and doctoring. So, if you're very stressed, you need to look at what you do for a living and decide whether it is perhaps taking too great a toll on your health.
     
  13. I heard somewhere too that the death rate for teachers takes a huge leap in the years between 60 and 65 and that's why the governement wants us to work till 65 - work us till we bloody well drop (sorry for the language).
     
  14. Stress? I had 15 years in the fire service - two main types of stress I experienced
    1. very intense, for a short period of time (minutes, usually)(life threatening type situations?
    2. boredom - nothing much to do/same old stuff

    In teaching it seems to be accumulative - it grinds you down - & you need to get the work/life balance right.

    Lots of former colleagues (fire service) are now dead or seriously ill?

    I think it has a lot to do with your own personal stamina + fitness + ability to relax + other interests outside of teaching.

    I hope to live to my parents age (stillgoing strong in their 80's!)

     
  15. Andy_91

    Andy_91 New commenter

  16. A few years ago in the "Guardian" (I think) I saw Cary Cooper quoted as saying that the only other job which had similar stress levels to teaching was air traffic control.

    I am starting to think more and more that we should be able to retire at 50 as I believe the Police are able to do.

     
  17. Andy_91

    Andy_91 New commenter

    Police can go at 30 years service on full pension, which is usually c 50. They have to go at 55 unless they have reached a certain rank [can't remember which]. Think they can also go at 25 years service on a reduced pension.
     
  18. The best profession to join to enjoy longevity is to become an Anglican priest. But better get going - you can't train for ordination after 40! Rats, another career option gone. I know the Bible backwards, am very good with old ladies and the bereaved, like tea and cucumber sandwiches. But would the C of E have been ready for an agnostic vicar living in sin with her partner and "illegitimate" atheist son?
     
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  19. Andy_91

    Andy_91 New commenter

    You could lie about your age and be a sort of latter day Pope Joan.
     

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