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Staggered finishing times for pupils to reduce risk of getting stabbed?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by scienceteachasghost, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. scienceteachasghost

    scienceteachasghost Lead commenter

  2. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    Just watched an item on the local news about this. They were talking about staggering finishing times and having more after school clubs. I guess the assumption is that there are no after school clubs in the schools the victims and perpetrators attend. How do we know there aren't lots of clubs but the knife carrying gang members are not keen to attend them as they have other things to do. I imagine the staff at these schools will be absolutely delighted to have a longer school day and be expected to run after school clubs in their own time for no extra pay having been in the classroom with these types of kids all day. Sorry I don't have a solution to this problem but putting even more pressure on exhausted teachers is not the way forward. The latest stabbing happened at 2 pm. Not sure if the victim was a school kid or not. If he was, the stabbing happened within school hours so staggering school finishing times and after school clubs would not have saved him.
     
  3. MustaphaMondeo

    MustaphaMondeo New commenter

    Other solutions are more amusing.
    Make them wear boxing gloves and fat suits.
    Feed them less so they hurry home.
    Handcuff them to their underpants.
    Send them to Eton.
     
  4. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    More cold showers and organized field sports!
     
  5. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    Fagging and merry japes in the dorm.
     
  6. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    I was listening to a radio programme the other day about how many of them are recruited as they leave PRUs.
     
  7. hs9981

    hs9981 Established commenter

    He'd sort them out!
     
  8. hs9981

    hs9981 Established commenter

  9. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    In some areas don't schools co-ordinate times and timetables to allow, for example, one school to offer some specialist A Levels, and another to offer different ones, so students can actually study MFLs, Classics, Music etc in more than their school? Staggering school times might well stop that...
     
  10. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    This is most certainly not the knee jerk reaction expected at this time.;)
     
  11. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    On visits to Chicago the first time I went to an High school it was a shock to see the kids lining up to go through airport type scanners and bags through Xray machines. Visitors too had to do this. Each school employed a team of security guards who manned these entrances and pulled over for additional scans and pat downs anyone who set off the scanners. The same security team then patrolled corridors (halls) during lessons and breaks and were on patrol at the school exits at the end of the day. On one visit we were about to leave the school a few minutes before the final bell when half a dozen Police cruisers pulled up outside and deployed officers. There had been a fatal stabbing at another school not far away, gang related, and they were there to try and make sure there was no immediate retribution. In my experience there the schools themselves were pretty safe spaces (and we went to one or two schools in really rough areas). The problems were mostly in the neighborhoods.
     
  12. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    An interesting insight. Teams of security guards would of course cost money that schools don't have. I wonder if Government would step in to fund these?
     
  13. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    Neither! The suggested solution accepts the problem and merely tries to lessen its effect. The answer is to attack the problem with none of this “could take a generation” nonsense :mad:

    Active, properly targeted policing and non-tolerance of criminal actions will go a long way.
     
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  14. Wotton

    Wotton Established commenter

    Surely they would just hang around waiting for the person if they were after someone specific. Also what about school transport and bus times. I know that locally some buses run specifically at the start and end of school times and later there would be no buses.
     
  15. Wotton

    Wotton Established commenter

    Typical schools are not doing enough, what about PARENTS!
     
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  16. Dragonlady30

    Dragonlady30 Star commenter

    You can't possibly blame parents. Their responsibilities have vanished!! :rolleyes:
     
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  17. Wotton

    Wotton Established commenter

    Gosh how stupid of me imagine forgetting that.
     
  18. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    Yeah but then the police would be accused of racism. They cant win.
     
  19. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    Um, what do you think targeted policing means?
     
  20. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    Targeted or not, the accusation of "racism" will be used in order to minimize the effect of any police action which obstructs the activities of the gangs. I presume you think it will not.
     

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