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Staffing ratio in Reception Class

Discussion in 'Independent' started by kan, Aug 4, 2009.

  1. kan

    kan

    Am starting in Reception class in Independent school in Sept and am confused over adult/child ratios.
    The Statutory Framework for EYFS states that children in aged 3 and over in Independent schools, including reception classes staffing ratio should be 1:13, and at least one other adult should hold level 3 qualification. The Independent Schools Inspectorate guidance states that in Reception classes the staffing arrangement is 1:30.
    I will have 21 children - with a TA with Level 3 on 3 days and a TA with Level 2 on 2 days. Is this okay? By the way, I have Qualified Teacher Status.
    Your views would be appreciated.
     
  2. kan

    kan

    Am starting in Reception class in Independent school in Sept and am confused over adult/child ratios.
    The Statutory Framework for EYFS states that children in aged 3 and over in Independent schools, including reception classes staffing ratio should be 1:13, and at least one other adult should hold level 3 qualification. The Independent Schools Inspectorate guidance states that in Reception classes the staffing arrangement is 1:30.
    I will have 21 children - with a TA with Level 3 on 3 days and a TA with Level 2 on 2 days. Is this okay? By the way, I have Qualified Teacher Status.
    Your views would be appreciated.
     
  3. I think, but can't quite put my hand on a reference to it, that Reception Classes in Inde Schools are now the same as maintained, which is 1-30. Have a look at the republished MAY 2008 statutory guidance.
    I think the figures you quote a re from the original first publication of document, which was revised..
    Great to have you on board. I teach F.S also in Inde and am glad that other EarlyYears folk are posting here.
    Does your school take the EY Grant? If so you may find that there can be LA monitoring which can cause a few difficulties.

     
  4. kan

    kan

    Many thanks for your prompt reply. I'm moving to an Indy school after several year teaching Reception in a state school and I'm trying to sort out how to please EY Advisors, school and parents at the same time.
    Hope you don't mind me asking questions as I go along!
     
  5. sarahmilly

    sarahmilly New commenter

    Hi,
    Having read your thread, I am really interested in the definate answer. I've had a look at what I think is the revised version and it still seems to say 1:13. I am a Y1 teacher in an indy school but this issue determines whether I get any classroom support or not!!!! So purely selfish I'm afraid!!!
    Sarah
     
  6. Hedda, I also thought that this was revised ,but I recently needed to check and I am not convinced that the ratio was revised - the information currently on the standards site states 1:13 with a QTS/EYP or equivalent, and a second person must be level 3.
    How can we find out for certain?
     
  7. Yes- I see whay you mean. Perhaps I read it in a letter from ISC.
     
  8. <font size="3"> http://www.isc.co.uk/publication_8_0_0_31_458.htm#eyfs</font>
    <font size="3">Taken from the above:</font>
    <font face="Times New Roman">In the first version of EYFS, ISC reception class teachers were required to work in a ratio of 1:13 while state sector colleagues could teach up to 30 pupils. After negotiations, this was changed to give the independent sector parity with the maintained sector. This has a knock-on effect for teaching assistant qualifications. As a teaching assistant is now surplus to statutory requirements in reception, their qualifications are irrelevant when a qualified teacher is present and there are less than 30 pupils. With extra pushing, we were also able to secure recognition of the qualifications of teachers from overseas and of specialist &ldquo;instructors&rdquo;, thereby allowing schools to continue with specialist music and sports teachers, for example. </font><font size="3">Staffing during teacher breaks and in playgrounds will be considered below. </font><font face="Times New Roman"></font>
     
  9. If anybody finds out would you let me know please
     
  10. celestine88 wrote the following post at 01 September 2009 17:23:
    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2008/uksi_20081953_en_1
    see 3c 5 (a)
    I think that's it!
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  11. That is really helpful!
    Thanks for digging this out. I have printed it out for my head teacher who will be mightily relieved!
     
  12. sarahmilly

    sarahmilly New commenter

    This is really interesting and not something my school are aware of... thank you for all of the information.
     
  13. ISI have updated their site re information regarding Early Years Inspection.
    Take a look and have a stiff drink!
     
  14. I have stopped sleeping!
     
  15. Has anyone else found the the wording of the nursery class requirements rather ambiguous?
    'In other EYFS classes for children of three and above, with a person with Qualified Teacher Status (or other suitable person as defined above), the ratio is 1:13, at least one other member of staff to hold a full and relevant level 3 qualification.'
    Does this mean there has to be 2 people present?
    So is the ratio 2:13 -in which case why didn't it say so - or could it be 2:26?

     
  16. 2:26 when QTS or equivalent is directly working with the children.
    I also think it says that NVQ3 can only take 1-8 when there is not a QTS in situ.
    How many children do you have?
     
  17. sarahmilly

    sarahmilly New commenter

    Am getting cofused now.. I mentionned to my head of pre prep that the ratios seem to have changed... she seems to think that the 1:30 ruling has been retracted again and that we are back to 1:13... does anybody know if that's the case?
     

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