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staff room behaviour

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by reena2706, Jun 7, 2012.

  1. Here in Oz, We make our own Coffee/Tea and are not supposed to take it to class though the occasional teacher does (and gets away with it, I wouldn't!). The supply of Coffee/Tea sugar and milk is done one of the following ways: 1) BYO 2) Pay a fee for the year proportional to your time fraction 3) Staff Association includes it in there budget or 4) if you are very lucky, the 'Admin' pays from their budget. We don't have many non-teaching staff and they are not expected to make beverages for others but we do have a dishwasher where your mug ends up if someone is kind enough to tidy the Staffroom. I agree with not taking tea/coffee to class though I do take a bottle of water as the pupils can be given permission to go for some water but the teacher MUST stay with the class at all times and I don't know about you but my mouth gets dry with all the talking that we are supposed to do.[​IMG]
     
  2. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    The problems within compulsary education (and there are many) are epitomised by this question.
     
  3. My school has free coffee and tea in the staff room, but the Science teachers drink in their own area and pay for the privilege. The issue is not who makes the drinks, but I never see a teacher wash up!
     
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  4. In my current school and in my previous one the staffroom committee has employed someone to come in at breaktime to make tea / coffee etc for the teaching and support staff. The staff then pay for their drinks and this pays the wages and costs of the service. Where would my school be without Vera?
     
  5. I, I'm a TA. My children, 4 year olds,go home at 1 o'clock. After they go home, while I tidy up the playground with the other TAs, my teacher makes a pot of coffee for her and for me. I live in the Emirates where it is very hot, and it's very nice to come back inside after some physical labour, and have a cupper waiting for you... We are here for each other...we work hard and we work as a team . We take turns buying the coffee.
     
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  6. There are some very lucky teachers here! I've been in FE for the past 15 years and I'm a bit jealous [​IMG]. We get a free cup of coffee/tea once a year at the Christmas meal but, frankly, it's so disgusting that most people don't bother. We don't have a staffroom so can't meet with colleagues from other departments for a chat and a coffee. We have to buy our own tea/coffee etc, as well as our own resources and have even had to print off things at home when there's been a ban on photocopying (times is 'ard).

     
  7. Schools Support Staff should never be asked to make Tea/Coffee for Teachers, as this creates a 'them & us' culture in the School, which is very divisive.
    I would never do this on principal.
    What will happen next?....Support Staff 'cleaning up' after teachers...i don't think so.
     
  8. Our tea and coffee facilities are provided. Woop, woop! I'm in a small special school.
    Our TAs also tend to make a brew for all staff sometime in the morning if there is time. Equally, if a teacher is free, they'll also do a run round for everyone too. It works, everyone is happy.
    With regards teachers providing their own tea and coffee, my partner recently had clean up of the staffroom cupboards at her school and removed a box of tea bags with an expiry date of 1984.
     
  9. bizent

    bizent Star commenter

    At my first school there was a lady who used to have a little tuck shop. The tea and coffee were free but you had to pay for any snacks, rolls etc.
    At my current school it's a DIY. I don't drink tea or coffee and just fill my water bottle from the fountain or bring a pack of coke and keep it in the fridge (we all have offices/curriculum areas).
    Our staff room is only really used by the TA's but sometimes there are a few battle-weary supply teachers and teaching staff who need to get away from the distraction of sharing an office with ten people.
    One thing that really sticks in my mind is once there was a supply teacher who obviously wasn't aware of the DIY and was asking if there was a tea bag or a spoon of coffee. The person she asked stood the whole time with a jar of coffee in her hand and asked about four different people "do we have tea and coffee for supply teachers? we don't do we? Is there a budget? I don't think there is?"
    I was about to offer to pay the jar-wielding person some money on the bewildered visitors behalf when someone else realising the absurdity of the situation made her a cup of tea.
    Now I realise most people think "well if you do it for one then..." but is this how most people behave now?
     
  10. Our technician used to make our tea and coffee ready for our break but I felt a little awkward that he was the 'tea boy'. The issue for us is time - we only have a 20 minute break and by the time we pack away one class and prepare for the next one there was little enough time to make a cuppa for ourselves.
    The solution came in the form of a small coffee machine that was donated by a local firm so now we pay 20p for our chosen brew and our technician simply maintains the vending machine and we can fill it with proper coffee and not the muck the main staff room stocks! Everone is happy but I now drink far too much coffee during the day!!
     
  11. <font face="Times New Roman">Two words spring to mind here. Hierarchy and hypocrisy. Why (unless their role has a catering element to it?) does anyone think another member of staff should be making them tea/coffee? Apparently the fact that someone is on a lower pay scale is justification in the minds of some! </font> <font size="3">And until we are happy to have pupils swaggering around with cups of boiling liquid I don&rsquo;t see why we should afford ourselves the privilege?</font>
     
  12. bizent

    bizent Star commenter

    Privilege?
     
  13. Perhaps some of the pupils could consider the smells they bring/ make in our classrooms before they start complaining about tea and coffee!
    (And before you jump down my throat, I HATE the smell of coffee!)
     
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  14. I work in a primary school as a TA and nearly always make cups of tea for my current teacher because she's lovely, but she would never expect me to make it as one of my duties. (I didn't for my previous one though!). In all the schools I've worked in staff have paid termly for tea/coffee and biscuits and do take their drinks into class (sometimes the teachers never actually make it into staff room at break). We had a daily rota for taking drinks out to those on break duty but everyone else either made their own or our very selfless bursar made them for us.What I don't like is the expectation by a small minority of teachers that we are somehow there to do all their washing up for them, even their lunch plates!
     
  15. Hi
    I'm in a large primary. We have a machine that gives instant hot water, no filling, straight from the mains. Best thing ever! No-one needs to make anyone else's drink. We also have a dishwasher and we all put our dirties in. There's a rota for clearing up any debris. Staff all chip in once a term pro-rata for tea/coffee etc. We also have a cold water dispenser, again straight from the mains : )

    Carrying hot drinks around school is frowned on from a safety point of view (quite rightly). Pupils are encouraged to bring a sports bottle for water into class. No problem ..........
     
  16. We used to have a coffee club - members paid for the coffee as it was ordered. Unfortunately we had too many staff members who thought the coffee was free and never paid but just helped themselves from the full coffee pot. A couple of years ago we got a Keurig coffee maker and it's been great. Everyone buys the kind of coffee they want for themselves - I get my nice strong coffee and others can have their watery or flavoured coffees ;-) The water doesn't get hot enough for a decent cup of tea, but Americans don't understand that. I wait till I get home in the afternoon for a cup of tea anyway.
    The staff member who used to make the pot of coffee (and switch it off/clean it up) is happier. Someone has to bring in bottles of water as our new staffroom doesn't have a sink, but somehow the bottles keep magically appearing. (I think someone refills them in the school kitchen.) The nice thing with no sink, but sinks in almost all the classrooms is that the teachers don't leave dirty mugs in the staffroom :)
    It's too many years since I taught in the UK to remember what the coffee/tea situation was in the schools I worked in - tho' I remember where I did my teaching practice there was a large wall-mounted water boiler in the staffroom and whoever happened to be in there right before break and lunch was responsible for filling it and switching it on. There was a crate of identical coffee mugs for people to help themselves to. I seem to remember the sink often being full of dirty mugs! Oh, and there was also a crate of wine glasses - when it was your birthday you were supposed to bring in wine so everyone could have a glass of wine!
     
  17. As someone else said in this string, we as teachers are using our voices constantly - I taught Music with PE and/or Drama in three schools. I developed a voice problem after 13 years of teaching, managed eventually to get a ENT specialist appointment and was well and truly told off for having a very dry throat by the doc! His exact words were - I can see that you drink nowhere near enough water!
    After that I had a 5 litre bottle of water in my room with a set of plastic cups from IKEA and drank from it steadily throughout the day, also allowing students to bring in their own 500ml water bottles from home, which could be refilled by me from the bottle if absolutely necessary. I consider it important that everyone takes proper care of their voice, especially after almost wrecking mine. And yes, it did make a difference, in a good way, for all concerned.
     
  18. I totally agree with you. I am a LSA and have been in a lesson when the teacher made a disruptive student a coffee so he would work. I also have been in lessons where the teacher does drink I think that it is wrong.
     
  19. I take a flask of tea to my classes as I sometimes have 2 x2hr classes back to back. There is a break but that is usually taken with sorting things out or talking to the learners. I do not like cold drinks so this works for me. I do not agree with eating in class as I think this is professional. Mmaybe a snack at break time but only then. I don't like my learners bringing food in with them so why should I.
    I do not expect myLSA's to do drinks duty. They have other things to be getting on with and are professionals in their own right.
     
  20. I allow my students to have a water bottle on their desks (8 & 9yr olds) and this doesn't cause any issues at all. I like to have a water bottle nearby and I'm more than happy to allow the students to do the same. Most of the students do so in the first and last term of our school year (we're in New Zealand so those are our 'hot' terms), but tend to not bother in Terms 2 and 3 as there are drinking fountains throughout the school. I don't have any problems with students wanting a toilet break during class-time, they're pretty good at restricting these to their breaktimes. Our first teaching block for the day is for two hours and we have no issues there.
    The first thing that goes when I have a cold is my voice, so I look after it as it is a definite requirement for the job!
    I'm enjoying catching up with the views of teachers in the UK (used to live there), and have really enjoyed reading the thread on Spelling and Grammar! They were getting quite feisty!

     

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