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Discussion in 'Scotland - education news' started by Flyonthewall75, May 10, 2011.

  1. Flyonthewall75

    Flyonthewall75 New commenter

    Yes, but even if it was possible to set up a separate Scottish Primary Teachers' Association from scratch, would that really address the issue?
    The EIS currently dominates national negotiations on pay and conditions of service so that even a well established union like the SSTA has a limited say on the outcome.
    A newly formed, separate primary teachers' association is unlikely to gain sufficient members, in the early stages, to challenge that dominance, particularly if you consider the current inertia within the teaching profession as a whole.
    There is also the danger that education will be viewed as two distinct experiences - ie that which takes place between the ages of 3 and 11 years and that which takes place from 12 to 18, thus reinforcing the 'great educational divide'.
    Education should be a continuous process, for the benefit of the pupils. Whilst separate sections for the primary and secondary sectors could prove beneficial when pursuing sector-specific issues, it is also important that the status of the profession, as a whole, is maintained.
    Let's not forget that there are still some teachers in Scottish Education who believe that secondary teachers should be paid more than primary teachers and, no doubt, they would welcome and, perhaps even encourage, the setting up of a separate primary teachers' association.
    What we need is genuine, healthy competition to the dominance of the EIS and that is not going to be achieved by fragmenting the profession into smaller associations.
    Of course, there is an alternative. All the teaching unions could almagamate into one union and have genuine, democratic debate from within to ensure the rights of all teachers, primary and secondary, permanent and supply, are protected.
    As has already been suggested, it could be called the Scottish Teachers' Association.
  2. Hear hear, Fly. United we stand etc etc.
  3. Dominie

    Dominie New commenter

    NAIL. HEAD. Could not agree more. BUT in order to form that organisation there is a small problem of another teaching organisation which effectively operates monopoly control of the SNCT and other aspects of Scotland's educational establishment. Will that organisation agree to reforms in its own structure to form an STA (with separate but linked associations for primary, secondary, further etc)?

    Does the Pope approve of prophylaxis?

    Did the aforementioned organisation stand up for its members in the recent negotiations?


    So, to quote Lenin ... "One step backwards to take two steps forward".
  4. Secondary EIS members are joining the SSTA in droves. Primary teachers do not have that option, and joining an English union is not the way forward. The creation of a SPTA union could be but the first step to creating a real challenge to the EIS.
    Imagine if the SPTA were to grow then merge with the SSTA in a federated union representing all scottish teachers but in a way that meant that no sector would feel dominated by another...
  5. Ah, yes, well, dream on.
    Meanwhile, NASUWT appears to be striking while the iron is hot. It's billing itself on its website as the "fastest growing teaching union in Scotland."

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