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some people believe......

Discussion in 'Primary' started by wordclass, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. wordclass

    wordclass New commenter

    I'd call them 'impersonal constructions'. M
     
  2. Hettys

    Hettys New commenter

    Heresay? Anecdote?
     
  3. They are called discussion conventions according to Sue Palmer!

     
  4. marlin

    marlin Star commenter Forum guide

    It would seem you are not the only one to be unsure!
    I've looked at various sources to see if I could get a definite answer for you - I was intrigued to find out as I felt there ought to be a name and I didn't know it!
    But the only things I seem to find are:
    Uncountable noun use here.
    and
    Language of debate - strong assertion.
    So perhaps - An assertive supporting phrase? [​IMG]
    Best I can do [​IMG]
     
  5. lardylegs

    lardylegs Occasional commenter

    Weasel words wins.
     
  6. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    Weasel words it is then!
    ( my Year 6's will love that! Mind you, anything that helps them to remember what to include will do wonders!)
    Now, if someone can sort out the difference betwen noun and adjectival phrases I will be eternally grateful!

     
  7. This doesn't seem fair to the phrase.

    After all, you could say, "Some people believe in ghosts." That's a simple statement of fact.
     
  8. tafkam

    tafkam Occasional commenter

    Well, you could, but it wouldn't add anything to any argument. In any decent piece of writing, the reader would immediately think "which people? where? why do they?"
    Without further supporting information, it's a redundant phrase.
     
  9. wordclass

    wordclass New commenter

    With respect to the earlier question, 'it is claimed' or 'some people believe' are passive and impersonal constructions respectively.
    (That short boy) is (extremely quick)
    (noun phrase) verb (adjectival phrase)
    Although the first phrase contains an adjective (short), the main word ('head word') is the noun, boy. Similarly, the second phrase, whilst containing an adverb (extremely), has an adjective as its head word, quick. The main word - the 'head word' - dictactes whether the phrase has a noun or adjectival function.
    Hope that makes sense?
     
  10. wordclass

    wordclass New commenter

    Without further supporting information, it's a redundant phrase.
    It is vague, but not redundant. It has a grammatical function.
     
  11. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    Absolutely, thank you!
    ( and I suspect you are aptly named!)
     
  12. tafkam

    tafkam Occasional commenter

    I take your point :)
     
  13. It's not a phrase, it's a sentence. :)


    Unless the information is provided elsewhere it's not redundant.

    What's wrong with a sentence that get's people to ask questions?

    I could continue..

    Some people believe in ghosts; some people are fools.

    I'm going to go off and write a story...

    By the way I'm a maths teacher.
     

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