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So who attacked Saudi Arabia?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by lanokia, Sep 18, 2019.

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Who attacked Saudi Arabia's oil facilities?

  1. Iran directly

    7 vote(s)
    38.9%
  2. Yemeni Houthi faction

    2 vote(s)
    11.1%
  3. False flag by Saudi/USA

    5 vote(s)
    27.8%
  4. Israel

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Other [outline below]

    4 vote(s)
    22.2%
  1. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Saudi and the USA seem sure it was Iran. The Houthi claim responsibility but could be acting as Iranian proxies [and the targets are much closer to Iran than Yemen]. What do people think?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49746645

    Has anyone got a reason why Iran would do this? What their possible logic could be? If they think it was Iran...

    I also bear in mind that Israel struck a site in Syria recently that they claimed was an Iranian drone facility.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...gainst-syria-to-foil-iran-killer-drone-attack
     
  2. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    It was probably teachers, who are to blame for everything.
     
  3. NoseyMatronType

    NoseyMatronType Lead commenter

    Unfortunately, neither Robert Fisk or Patrick Cockburn appear to have commented yet (though maybe one of them will eventually) and Michael Axworthy has sadly passed on.

    Maybe Ali Ansari might be canvassed for his opinion at some point. Or Simon Mabon (the author of a book on the Saudis and Iran).

    That's all I can think of.

    'Don't know' in other words.

    But if you come across anything that seems trustworthy, do post it (I'll do the same).
     
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2019
  4. hplovegame48

    hplovegame48 New commenter

    I largely suspect it was the Saudis and Americans in cahouts.
    If it was an outside job, given how appalling and lackseSaudi security is, I lived there for long enough, I wouldn't be surprised either.
     
  5. burajda

    burajda Star commenter

    Maybe, if it was Iran, they want to test Trump. If the US still takes no action, then it shows the US to be withdrawing from the region.
    Why is Israel on the list and not Russia....or Britain
     
  6. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    For those posters who think Israel is behind everything.
     
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  7. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    So there's no hidden agenda in this thread or anything. My answer to the original question is "jiggered if I know". In truth, that is also the answer for every poster, unless someone has a hotline to several intelligence services.
     
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  8. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Yes. Mossad paid me to expose you.

    They have cameras watching you right now.
     
  9. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    But you didn't include Momentum!
     
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  10. artboyusa

    artboyusa Lead commenter

    I'll go with "a certain theocratic regime which wants to provoke the US into open war with them, the bloody outcomes of which will then damage Trump enough to cause him to lose the 2020 election and be replaced by someone more sympathetic, in the way Obama was and the EU is, toward said theocracy".

    But whoever did it, it's not our fight. If the Saudis think it was their regional rivals, okay. The Saudis can go and use some of those weapons we sold them to fight their own war for a change.
     
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  11. blue451

    blue451 Lead commenter

    Who stands to benefit most from an attack on Iran?
     
  12. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Surely who stands to benefit for the attack on Saudi Arabia?

    It'd like asking "who stands to benefit from the arrest for this mugger who just attacked an old lady?"
     
  13. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    Follow the money.

    Oh, hang on a minute - Saudi Arabia's got all the money. Forget I said that.
     
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  14. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    I think it was the Tories in order to divert attention from Bo Jo, the Brexit fiasco and the High Court hearing.
     
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  15. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Probably the dark hand of Dominic Cummings...
     
  16. NoseyMatronType

    NoseyMatronType Lead commenter

    Given the blatant lying and micro-fibbing that so many administrations habitually engage in almost as a reflex action these days (those of Putin, Trump, Bolsonaro and our very own serial practitioner Boris Johnson being the most obviously recognisable examples), there is an easy way to resolve this: appoint an independent team of investigators to look into what happened.

    For example, the official Dutch-led investigation into the downing of Malaysian Flight 17 when it was crossing over southeastern Ukraine back in 2014 eventually exposed the Russian version of events (as reinforced through the Russian media) to be a tissue of absurd and incoherent lies.

    So maybe something like that is needed. But I would be surprised if any such investigation ever gets authorized.
     
  17. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    To be fair, that was clear before the investigation.
     
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  18. colpee

    colpee Star commenter

    Tbh, I can’t see how it would make much difference. Any such investigation would rely heavily (as the Ukrainian one did) on US intelligence supplied information, and could hardly therefore be seen as impartial; particularly as the US has already declared its hand.
     
  19. NoseyMatronType

    NoseyMatronType Lead commenter

    According to one reliable survey, in September 2014, 86 per cent of Russians blamed Ukraine for shooting down MH17 and 85 per cent continued to do so in July 2015.

    This is in spite of the fact that the Russian version of events consisted of contradictory nonsense (but it would take too long for me to summarise it here).

    Anyone wishing to establish the veracity of the findings of the Dutch-led investigation should refer to pages 179 to 182 of Timothy Snyder’s book The Road to Tyranny and then decide for themselves.
     
    Last edited: Sep 19, 2019
  20. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    Has he used the same make-up artist as Justin Trudeau?
     
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