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So many people made redundant that noone is left to write references.

Discussion in 'Headteachers' started by sunblest, May 18, 2011.

  1. Just that really. Such a large number of staff have been made redundant due to falling roles that I have noone left at my last school to name as a reference.
    I had thought that they would write a simple and factual reference for me from my file but the new HT simply ignored all requests. When I questioned the delay HT said it was 'inappropriate' to give me a reference as he hadn't worked with me for very long (over one term.)
    Legal advice reveals that there is no obligation to write a reference but I feel that it looks bad. I have now applied for two jobs where they have seemed interested but after the reference delay I have failed to get the job.
    Filling in application forms now fills me with dread. Is there any way I can get round this problem?
     
  2. Just that really. Such a large number of staff have been made redundant due to falling roles that I have noone left at my last school to name as a reference.
    I had thought that they would write a simple and factual reference for me from my file but the new HT simply ignored all requests. When I questioned the delay HT said it was 'inappropriate' to give me a reference as he hadn't worked with me for very long (over one term.)
    Legal advice reveals that there is no obligation to write a reference but I feel that it looks bad. I have now applied for two jobs where they have seemed interested but after the reference delay I have failed to get the job.
    Filling in application forms now fills me with dread. Is there any way I can get round this problem?
     
  3. Can't you get in touch with someone who used to be at the school?
     
  4. I can do but it seems akin to 'my mate down the road' referencing to give home addresses. I may be being old fashioned in feeling it normal to give last school, HT and immediate line manager. Still I suppose needs must in changing times.
     
  5. Doesn't matter where their address is! What they say about you is the important bit. Anyone could be made redundant. Doesn't imply that they were **** or that you are.
     
  6. That's a cheery thought, thank you. I just find it rather embarrasing that he couldn't cobble up a basic, factual reference. It makes me feel as though I've been working in a somewhat less than professional environment.
    Thanks for the reminder of the important thing though.
     
  7. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    You are right to be slightly wary about giving referees with a personal, rather than professional, address. However, perhaps they now have a job at another school?
    The way to get over this, if no school address available, is to come out and explain this. Just a short sentence or two in your letter setting out the situation and emphasising that these are professional not personal referees.
    Whenever there is something slightly unusual in an application, always explain it. Otherwise the shortlisting panel can begin to inamgine all sorts of things!
    Best wishes
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  8. breadmaker

    breadmaker New commenter

    Don't you put their relationship to you on the form? So even if your referree has a home address, it will be obvious that they are not your mate down the road when you put their relationship to you.
     
  9. Many thanks for taking the time to reply.
    I'll keep trying. I have two good referees showing different aspects of my work. I'll just put them down boldly with a brief note thereby following all the sensible and somewhat calming advice.
    I just got caught up in a moment of panic/despair there.
    Thank you again.
     
  10. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    You might like to look at
    the help on JobSeeking, including interviews, that is available on the
    JobSeekers Forum.


    Open the Welcome thread there - it has lots of clickables with tips and advice to help you present yourself effectively.


    You can also post your questions on the Forum - put Dear Theo in the title to get a personal reply from me.




    Best wishes!



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    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.





















    I
    do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the
    Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive
    summaries and interviews, with practical exercises that people really
    appreciate.





















    The Job Seminars are all sold out, I'm afraid, but Julia is planning some more later on.






















    A new SLT seminar is available now on 22 May <u>www.tesweekendworkshop32.eventbrite.com</u>, and another is planned for 18 June.






















    E-mail Julia on advice@tsleducation.com for how to book a meeting with me personally.





















    Look forward to seeing you!





     

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