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So how did Vote Leave cheat?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by FrankWolley, Nov 8, 2018.

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  1. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

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  2. sparkleghirl

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  3. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    How does this compare with the £9 million above the spending limit for Remain that the government splashed out to send a pro-Brexit leaflet to every household?
     
  4. peapicker

    peapicker Star commenter

    Aaron Banks was not associated with Vote Leave...
     
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  5. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    In terms of money or interms of factual accuracy?
     
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  6. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    Apparently he hasn't read the evidence, so he just repeats himself conflating a legal act with an illegal one.
     
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  7. JL48

    JL48 Star commenter

    To be honest, they all pale into insignificance compared to the millions of free advertising that Leave got from the hard right foreign owned British press.
     
  8. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    In terms of money.

    However, since the government's expenditure of £9 million was not enough to produce a "remain" vote, it would be very difficult to prove that the much smaller sum provided by Banks had any effect.
     
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  9. JL48

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  11. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    [This comment/section/image has been removed for breaching our Community Guidelines/Terms and conditions] that does not prove that the outcome of the referendum was affected. As I said, the government craftily pumped an additional £9 million into the campaign to remain, and it didn't produce the result they hoped for.
     
  12. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

    Moral concerns? So if a government says 'hey, we will decide it is OK to take millions from the taxpayers and use it to tell them how to vote and it will be legal....simply because we say so'...….there is no need for concern?

    They would not even consider using taxpayer money to give the pros and cons from both sides - and then tell anyone else using non taxpayer money who dares do the same (influence the vote) they will be punished for doing so illegally?????

    If having morals is about fairness then this was morally repugnant.
     
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  13. Scintillant

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  14. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    This is evidence of law breaking:


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46109883


    "Pro-Brexit campaign group Leave.EU and an insurance company owned by its founder Arron Banks face total fines of £135,000 over breaches of data laws"

    [NB Banks was a co-founder of Leave.EU...]
     
  15. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    But not of breaking election/referendum law, which is what is being discussed.

    Nice attempt at deflection, but totally misses the point. :rolleyes:
     
  16. JL48

    JL48 Star commenter

    This point is relevant
    this is not. If the law has indeed been broken, this is the point.
    Nothing compared to the free advertising worth millions that the hard right foreign owned British press has given for free to the Leave campaigns over the years.
    Who said that? I'm just saying that legally, he broke the law. They didn't.
     
  17. peapicker

    peapicker Star commenter

    Aaron Banks is still not associated with Vote Leave and never has been...:rolleyes:

    Time to get facts right!
     
  18. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    That's right. The fact that the result of the referendum may or may not have been affected is irrelevant.

    Or the free advertising worth millions that Brexit-opposing newspapers such as the Guardian, Independent, Daily Mirror, and Financial Times have given for free to Remain campaigns over the years (not to mention the BBC, which has only recently started to take a more neutral position), or broadcasters such as James O'Brien daily pumping out anti-Brexit propaganda.
     
  19. JL48

    JL48 Star commenter

    It's only since the referendum that the Remain camp have finally got themselves together. Finally.
    Nothing like in the same order.
    It's comments like this that make you sound like you listen to Infowars. The BBC has always been a member and supporter of the British establishment - whoever they were.
     
  20. peapicker

    peapicker Star commenter

    This is sub judice. Comments relating to it shouldn't be being published at all!
     
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