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So easy to get settled status - not

Discussion in 'Personal' started by monicabilongame, Aug 24, 2019.

  1. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter

    In answer to those who are saying how simple it will be / it is to apply for and get settled status:

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    https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/settled-status-brexit-application-rejected-chef/


    Top chef who served Royals and worked at 2012 Olympics ‘doesn’t qualify for Settled Status’ despite living in UK for 15 years

    Damian Wawrzyniak has only been offered pre-Settled Status even though he has lived in the UK past the five-year threshold

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...s-settled-status-eu-immigration-a8861401.html

    Ofsted director Daniel Muijs ‘denied’ settled status after Brexit

    'I now need to find evidence of residence since 2013. Not a good feeling'



    And I am sure there will be many more to come.
     
  2. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    It is not hard: 99.5% of the 900,000 applications thus far processed have been successful. But, like any type of application, you have to supply the paperwork required. The 0.5% who have not yet been successful have, by and large, failed to produce the documentation required. Just saying that you have cooked for the queen is not sufficient.

    The word 'denied' is in quotes because because he hasn't been denied settled status. It is a lie. He has been asked to provide more evidence before his claim can be processed.

    I expect there will be many more threads to come if people keep posting on a topic that has already been discussed today. This forum is not a "write only" medium, you know. See:

    https://community.tes.com/threads/so-what-now-for-brexit.784502/page-845#post-12902938
     
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  3. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Lead commenter

    That's good news.
     
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  4. NoseyMatronType

    NoseyMatronType Lead commenter

    This country is being run by complete and utter t.w.a.t.s.

    That's what monica has demonstrated.

    Why the f.u.c.k. should someone have to go through this s.h.i.t in thev first place when they've been here for so long?
     
  5. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Because they need to evidence that they have been here for that period of time and legally so.

    Otherwise anyone could just claim settled status.
     
  6. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    After all the years of complaint about Ofsted demanding unreasonable amounts of paperwork from schools, I wonder if a faint smile crossed the lips of anyone else when they read that the deputy director of Ofsted failed to provide sufficient paperwork to support his application for settled status? :p
     
  7. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

    If your papers are in order then obtaining pre or settled status is ridiculously easy, speedy AND free. Even simple tourist visas for non EU citizens take 3 weeks and cost 80 odd quid (or did back in 2016 when I helped friends with the paperwork).

    The EU settled status visa is light years faster and cheaper quite possibly than anything ever. They are even allowing backdated refunds for those who paid (I think it was) 60 quid previously. (Compare that to 2500 quid for non EU citizens applying for spouse settlement visas - 1700 approx which will be taken even if the application is refused)

    Of course, like any visa application if there are issues with the paperwork then it can become a nightmare. While easy to jump on the victim card bandwagon, we have no idea how well the applicants here read the forms and/or ensured they had the correct paperwork. The number 1 failure for any visa is not sending in the correct paperwork - which as much as we want to say is the HO's fault, it is not.

    Aside from what Florian has added re the official stats, in two of the links above it can be read (eventually) that the chef has been given pre settlement status while the HO assists him with the necessary documents for settled status, and the Ofsted lady has not had her application refused but told of the need for specific documents.

    So the headlines really should read 'chef has not got settled status - yet' 'Ofsted lady asked for more papers, application on hold'.

    As Florian also points out, ANY office putting out a 99.5% positive figure is hardly causing stress and hardship for the applicants.

    Of course, those caught in the 0.5% will not agree and that is understandable.

    Adding what we have here would of course been more professional journalism but alas, it takes the wind of out the sails of 'it's a new Windrush!!' scandalists/ end of worlders.
     
  8. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    That story was published on the Independent on 9th April.

    THE DAY AFTER, the 10th April, the BBC published an update:

    Ofsted's head of research, who had complained of being "rejected" for "settled status" after Brexit, now says his application has been accepted.

    Prof Daniel Muijs, a senior figure in England's education watchdog, is originally from Belgium but has worked in the UK for more than 20 years.

    His problems with applying to stay drew protests on social media.

    But Prof Muijs has now said on Twitter he is "happy to report" that the Home Office has approved his application.

    He thanked the Home Office and Department for Education for their assistance - and Ofsted confirmed that the application problem was now resolved.


    So, this has been a non-story since 10th April, just one day after is was a supposed story!

    Rule #5 applies
    1. Consider the source (to understand its mission and purpose)
    2. Read beyond the headline (to understand the whole story)
    3. Check the authors (to see if they are real and credible)
    4. Assess the supporting sources (to ensure they support the claims)
    5. Check the date of publication (to see if the story is relevant and up to date)
    6. Ask if it is a joke (to determine if it is meant to be satire)
    7. Review your own biases (to see if they are affecting your judgment)
     
  9. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Thanks for spotting that.

    This is the second out-of-date story that @monicabilongame has posted here in the last 24 hours (the other being about the UK not implementing the EU Anti-Tax Avoidance Directive when in fact it has).
     
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  10. viceroy

    viceroy Occasional commenter

    "Thiscountry is being run by complete and utter t.w.a.t.s."


    Dictioary escape you?
     
  11. krakowiak6

    krakowiak6 Occasional commenter

    So what that he has served the Royals and 2012 Olympics? WHat's that got to do with passing the criteria for settled status? What's so good about a polish chef (top chef)
    WHy does he want to settle in the UK rather than go back to poland?
     
  12. krakowiak6

    krakowiak6 Occasional commenter

    And presumably he came over to work in the UK for the money but where did he get the money from to open up a restaurant and catering business? That costs money. He must have been on a whacking salary then to pay rent in Cambridge, travel to Great Yarmouth and save for a business.
     
  13. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Crowd funding, if i remember correctly.
     
  14. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Nothing to do with either the subject of the thread or you.

    It is to do with the ease by which a person is able to successfully complete three key steps – prove their identity, show that they live in the UK, and declare any criminal convictions.

    I assume that Damian Wawrzyniak failed in one of more of these steps, but just needs to provide more evidence in order to succeed.

    Mind you, he has 'issues' regarding the process. https://www.thecaterer.com/articles...tion-against-eu-settlement-status-application
     
  15. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

  16. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    I doubt very much if it will be straightforward. With Nightstop I offer a room to homeless youngsters. One of our Polish lads came over here at the age of 6 with his parents. They're not brilliantly reliable and have split up. They got no documentation. He's 19. He has only been able to work on car-washes because he has no proper home and bog all qualifications.

    He's neither fish nor fowl. No proper Polish papers. Not British though he's been here for 13 years and went to school.

    So we've had to fundraise as he has to get to the Polish Embassy in London to get Polish papers before there's even a chance of getting settled status here! This is QUITE a common problem.
     
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  17. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    If they have paid taxes, the HMRC should have records.
     
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  18. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    There are various free legal advice services than can help with applications from complex cases from the potentially vulnerable. One that seems well recommended is Here for Good:
    https://www.hereforgoodlaw.org/
     
  19. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    For which they will need the applicant's National Insurance number. There are ways around this if the applicant doesn't know what it is, but that is when a tedious amount of other documentation has to be submitted. The same if it turns out that there gaps in the employment record.
     
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  20. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    WOW!
    Just WOW!

    (And in any case, he's been here 15 YEARS!).
     

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