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Slow day in the Commons

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Vince_Ulam, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Thankfully not lifetime sentences.
  2. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    In two years, for Universal Credit alone, there were over 120,000 sanctions lasting a minimum of five weeks. Around 30,000 were over 5 weeks, of which around 8000 were over 27 weeks.

    That's just for UC. When you factor in the debt that people will then enter as a result, it's safe to say there will be a lot of people who are very, very, short of money.

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  3. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    I do not approve of UC but I do not believe that it renders people forgetful of their menstrual cycle.
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  4. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter


    "With the average woman menstruating 450 times, the total cost of a period during a female’s lifetime was worked out at a whopping £18,450."

    That's around £41 every 28 days (or 21 days if your menstrual pattern is a 21 day one) and includes pads, tampons, having to buy new underwear because of leaks, pain relief and so on.

    Women are advised to change their tampons every 4 hours or so (8 hours at night). That's, say, 5 tampons a day. Some women need to use pads as well if the flow is very heavy. That's an average. I have been in the situation where I needed to change every hour, and have had to go home from work and pray that the journey didn't take any longer than an hour, because the flow was so heavy. Some women can get through a 'box of 20' in two days.

    It's not a case of 'being forgetful of your menstrual cycle' (@Vince-Ulam ) it's a case sometimes of being in constant awareness that it could start any time, and having to have a large enough bag with you at all times to ensure you are not caught out. It's different for every woman.

    Men generally don't know anything about this because nobody wants to talk about the blood and the mess and the pain because it's 'not nice' or 'not ladylike' or just 'not done' as far as men are concerned, and can be excruciatingly embarrassing for women. But maybe it's time we did talk about it. Maybe it's time men, in particular, stopped blithely thinking about it as 'only 12 times a year' as though it was a day with a headache or something. Maybe it's time that men did understand that it can be a fortnight out of every four weeks of bleeding, timing things, constantly checking one has enough supplies with one, cramps that one has to pretend don't exist so one doesn't draw attention to oneself, surreptitious trips to the bathroom, staff, or public toilets hoping nobody is noticing how often you have having to go etc. etc., and just pretending to be 'normal'.

    Having to pay VAT on these supplies - sanitary products that women need - is not the same as paying VAT on things like cigarettes or alcohol. It isn't a choice - not even deciding to use a cup is an option for all women. One would have hoped we are past the days of using rags which are then boil-washed and hung out to dry out of sight, but it would seem not.

    I find the flippant attitude of some of the male posters on here saddening but not surprising. Let's face it, the worst most teenaged boys have to contend with is how to hide an unexpected erection... and the worst older men have to contend with is the dot of shame that can appear on the trouser front, even after they are sure they have shaken all the drips off. But unless you have a real understanding of the menstrual cycle and all it entails for a woman - including embarrassment, pain, shame, exclusion etc., don't minimalise it, because honestly, you don't have a clue.

    Although you might just about be able to, if you were to imagine that every 28 days, for maybe 40 years or so, you got stomach cramps and then had really bad diarrhoea for at least a week, over which you had no control, and for which there was nothing to take to stop it. And for that time you were likely to have to spend £41 every time to make sure you had something to soak up the flow, pay for painkillers to manage the cramps, and sometimes buy new underwear because you had inadvertently sh@ yourself while at work or out socialising.
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  5. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    This is too much information. The House Of Commons is really going down the Fallopian tubes. Bunch of lunar phasers.
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  6. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    They probably padded it out for a bit..
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  7. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Blimey. 25 squid?!! What’s she doing...buying Hotel Chocolat goodies and silk knickers?!! Go to wilko or Poundland. Sainsburys basics, 59p at the mo.
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  8. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Four-weekly, so 13 weeks a year. You are going beyond damned lies into the land of statistics.
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  9. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter

    I think she had more balls than those making fun of the issue to be able to speak out about it in Parliament!
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  10. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    I'll qualify your post with 'on average' so that you do not get beaten over the knuckles with NHS links.
  11. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Nice one.
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  12. kittylion

    kittylion Senior commenter

    @monicabilongame You expressed this far better than I could have done. As you say, the flippant, dismissive attitudes of some men on this - an education site - makes me realise how far we still have to go in terms of equality. It just makes me really sad that people think like this still.
  13. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    This would be an overestimate, but then the Huffington Post tends to the false.

    I know it is not, I was replying to a particular point.
  14. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    That's fine.
  15. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Free sanitary products for pupils and students

    'Every school, college and university in Scotland is to provide free sanitary products under a new £5.2m Scottish government scheme.

    The launch of the scheme coincides with the start of the new academic year.

    It follows a pilot programme in Aberdeen, while funding has also allowed free availability in some areas to women on low incomes.

    The government said the funding aimed to help "banish the scourge of period poverty" among pupils and students.
    BBC.co.uk, 24th August 2018.

    The black market rubs its hands in glee.
  16. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Wrong time.

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