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Skype, references... Now what?

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by sunshine_desserts, Mar 27, 2018.

  1. sunshine_desserts

    sunshine_desserts New commenter

    Hi all

    I've had an informal discussion with a Spanish international school via Skype. They've asked for references, they even went as far as pressing for further references as my previous employer would only give basic information. I've provided a further reference who was willing to give a thorough reference (the referee assured me it was positive.) It's been around 2 months since I initially made contact with the school. I've been applying elsewhere, I even had another offer but I wasn't keen. No job offer has been made at the school in question.

    I know that this school is not advertising (although I believe they are expanding) but they did say that I was shortlisted for the position of "Teacher of (my first subject) and (my second subject.) Which is very specific!

    Has anyone experienced this or would care to hazard a guess what is going on?
     
  2. T0nyGT

    T0nyGT Lead commenter

    They found someone else or restructured within. Simple
     
  3. sunshine_desserts

    sunshine_desserts New commenter

    I last heard from them around a week ago, asking for a further reference, which has been provided.
     
  4. willow78

    willow78 Occasional commenter

    Question should be, do you want to work for a company who treat people like this?
     
  5. gulfgolf

    gulfgolf Established commenter

    Keep looking. Maybe Spain works out, maybe it doesn't. Don't burn any bridges until you know.
    And I have to ask, why Spain? With its very poor reputation overall for the treatment and payment of international teachers, and so many attractive options around the world, why Spain?
     
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  6. spanboy

    spanboy Occasional commenter

    Re: Spain - exactly! Wish I'd got out of there years ago (am out now, just wish I'd've done it sooner!)
     
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  7. Penny10p

    Penny10p Occasional commenter

    This happened to with two different schools (different countries). I had an interview, then they took up references, then a second interview. Told me they would let me know within the week. Never heard from them again. When I emailed to ask if they had made a decision I got no reply. I think it is a very bad way for a school to conduct themselves and I would not want to work for a school that treats people like that.
     
  8. Jason_Bourne_

    Jason_Bourne_ Occasional commenter

    The fact that you initially made contact two months ago and are still waiting for a job offer tells you all what you need to know about the school. #stayClear
     
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  9. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    I would like to point out that i didnt say anything negative about Spain this time ;)
     
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  10. sunshine_desserts

    sunshine_desserts New commenter

    Well done, dumbbells66. My husband and I are looking for a new challenge. We chose not to have a family but we are still young, we are close to our own families and don't want to be too far. My husband works from home and his employer would like him to return very occasionally for meetings. We also have a rescue dog who is older and I don't want to put him in the cargo of a plane so we are going to use the ferry. There are lots of British teachers in Spain- it can't be that bad. If there was another job I could do in another county I would... whilst I like being a teacher I've not exactly had positive experiences here in the UK. It's about the new life. Not the job.
     
  11. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    i actually laughed out loud at this one :p

    best of luck
     
  12. sunshine_desserts

    sunshine_desserts New commenter

    What exactly is the issue? I don't care about the pay.
     
  13. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    i nearly had a nervous break down and seriously thought about quitting teaching. my sister had her tax contributions stolen by the owner of her schools and had to leave the country in a hurry. a close friend of mine had stress induced alopecia from working at his school. i could go on and on and on and on...but i wouldnt want to bore you.

    best of luck
     
  14. sunshine_desserts

    sunshine_desserts New commenter

    You're not boring me, i'm very sorry to hear you wen't through that. I'm still not sure if it is workload, management, behaviour?
     
  15. gulfgolf

    gulfgolf Established commenter

  16. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    All the above...plus through in incompetence and you would be about right.
     
  17. yasf

    yasf Occasional commenter

    When bad international schools go wrong, they really go wrong. And in a way that most people wouldn't believe possible.

    My favourite (urban legend?) from the circuit was about a school in the ME that locked all its overseas teachers in the basement for 3 days.
     
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  18. gulfgolf

    gulfgolf Established commenter

    Seems urban legendary.
     
  19. yasf

    yasf Occasional commenter

    That's what I thought. If I hadn't found out about by listening in on a conversation between my IB DP coordinator and Head of School - I wouldn't have paid it any mind. Apparently one of them was directly involved.
     
  20. new13sue

    new13sue New commenter

    I've been in a similar position with a certain 'well regarded' international school in Madrid. Three Skype interviews, references taken, rejection for one post, feedback promised, then not received. Another interview, 5 weeks ago. Told I'd hear from them within 8 days. Nothing! nada!

    The UK system has many faults, but in over 20 years, I've never known such poor recruitment procedures. Safe to say I'm not impressed, and have now accepted a contract in the U.K., where least I'll have the protection of teachers' Ts & Cs. And they got back to me the day after the interview!!

    I agree with other posters here- it' s almost certainly an indication of what that particular Spanish school would be like as an employer, so I've probably dodged a bullet!!
     

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