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Situation in Dubai

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by Timetofly, Mar 4, 2019.

  1. 4019775

    4019775 New commenter

    Why do so many put up with the wages/awful amoral behaviour of so many international schools?

    If you have a decent degree/post grad degree in a decent subject (one that would actually get you a decent job outside teaching) and not something Mickey Mouse like history or geography there are plenty of excellent jobs at old school UK privates.

    I earn just shy of 50k as a classroom teacher (top of our scale), plus joint pension contributions of £1000/month, plus state pension, plus BUPA for family, plus school transport to and from work, plus free meals, plus 75% reduction in school fees for the kids at a proper world class school. Employer treats staff wonderfully, kids are exceptionally behaved and final year classes have many of the brightest of their generation going to top universities.

    Our SMT would not let anyone from the circuit through the door.
     
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  2. 4019775

    4019775 New commenter

    Oh and the buildings/grounds I work in on a daily basis are stunningly beautiful
     
  3. Mr_Frosty

    Mr_Frosty Established commenter

    I earned almost double what I earn now in my pre-teaching career. I did it for many years and was reasonably good at it, but at the end of the day money doesn't make me happy (so long as I have enough for the lifestyle I want). And without wanting to turn the thread into a competition I earn over £50K a year completely tax free, full private healthcare and if I had kids they would have 100% of fees covered and I suspect many posters here out do me - so i'm not sure you're in all that great of a situation financially.

    As for international schools, in my opinion they come in all types - good bad and ugly. We mostly only hear about the schools with issues but I would imagine that the number of schools across the world that are okay to excellent to work in far outweigh the ones that are dreadful. It's only a small sample, but most of the people who post on here seem mostly happy, most of the time with the schools they're working at. On a personal level I have way fewer teaching hours than I would in the UK and as a result have way more free-time outside of working hours to enjoy life and much higher disposable income to spend when doing it. For sure it's not for everyone but the pros outweight the cons for many of us.
     
  4. wrldtrvlr123

    wrldtrvlr123 Occasional commenter

    Seven posts in seven years as a member (as least under this name) and all trashing international schools/teaching. Interesting.

    I wonder how you are working at this educational utopia since you have stated in other posts that you have international experience and so are presumably "from the circuit". And btw, how much of your 50K is left after taxes, housing and utilities?
     
  5. Powergnome3

    Powergnome3 Occasional commenter

    https://schoolscompared.com/tag/not-for-profit/
    Just click into some of the schools in here 4019463797 or whatever your name is, and tell us that these are not world class schools, with world class teachers - every single one of which will be earning far more money than you; while enjoying a safe, multi-cultural, cosmopolitan and exciting lifestyle... And not having to put up with a ******* society with ****** weather.
    Enjoy your life in your little private school - I’d take mine any day of the week!
     
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  6. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    What will really annoy @4019775 is that some of us in the better international schools, and not even in the ME, and not even at the top of my school payscale, take home over £25 000 a year more. The school pays 100% of school fees for up to 3 children, and there are zero cost to come out of that take home pay....it ALLLLLLLL goes in the bank. I work at an amazing school, with awesone professionals (way better than i ever worked with in the UK), and in a FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR better country, with far more to do in it, with less restrictions than any other country i have ever worked in.

    Some of us are living the dream
     
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  7. billinziemalcolm

    billinziemalcolm New commenter

    hi

    loved your post could you give me some more info on the schools, ive just came back from dxb today and i had a mini wobble knowing that i had to come back to a job that i loathe. Im a secondary Art teacher(lead) and a sole dependent of a 4 year old, who will be starting school in September. Im seriously considering teaching KS1 even though its not my specialism as I need a fresh start...could you kindly give me some advice. Thanks.
     
  8. Mr_Frosty

    Mr_Frosty Established commenter

    I'm not sure which schools Pgnome was referring to but here in AD I'd guess The East Sussex School and the Derbyshire School - both of which have Dubai campuses and the Surrey school - which I think is AD only. I'm sure there are more though - I hear rumours that one of te American Schools in AD pays very well, but it's not first hand information.

    I did see an Art job or maybe 2 advertised over the summer but I don't think they were at great schools (not named, just the impression I got.)
     
  9. Powergnome3

    Powergnome3 Occasional commenter

    East Sussex and Surrey, yes... Derbyshire still to be proven - time will tell, but currently wouldn’t be in my top 4. Bill... I will PM you now.
     
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  10. the hippo

    the hippo Lead commenter Community helper

    When trying to get a job at one of these wonderful schools that pay so well, there is often a little difficulty: they aren't many vacancies.
     
  11. Mr_Frosty

    Mr_Frosty Established commenter

    I'm not sure that's necessarily true. People leave for all sorts of reasons despite the high salaries. I'm sure the East Sussex school in AD had vacancies on their website around June. It is almost certainly much harder to get a job there but more due to their standards than lack of vacancies, i would imagine.
     
  12. Cashworth24

    Cashworth24 New commenter

    When you say 10-12K, is that before or after housing allowance?
     
  13. Mr_Frosty

    Mr_Frosty Established commenter

    10-12k plus housing on top - either provided or an allowance. In the last year I have seen jobs advertised with salaries as low as 8.5K + housing. And some of the 10-12k schools only provide shared accommodation to single people.
     
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  14. Cashworth24

    Cashworth24 New commenter

    Thank you, I've ust arried and was wondering what my budget would stretch to :)
     
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  15. Mr_Frosty

    Mr_Frosty Established commenter

    It depends how much you want to save!
     
  16. billinziemalcolm

    billinziemalcolm New commenter

    Thank you
     
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