I deal with these teenagers every day as so many of the other posters do. I know how they talk and I also know that tey see us as teachers and that they see theachers as being a certain way - having a certain type of behaviour. We are a stable force in their lives and they DO have certain expectations of us. When we act below those expectations then they gasp because we are supposed to be above that to them. We are a stability and when we stop being a stability then there are problems. WE put ourselves in the position of being the adults who are NOT rude and beyond reproach so when we do fall below that standard, they will let us know.