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Should Trump pardon Matt Golsteyn?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by MAGAorMIGA, Dec 16, 2018.

  1. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

  2. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Why not - he pardons everyone else
     
  3. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Army Major Matthew Golsteyn said he shot and killed the man during his deployment in Afghanistan because he suspected he was a Taliban bomb maker.

    According to documents seen by NBC, Golsteyn told army investigators that he and his fellow soldiers were doing house-to-house searches when they found bomb-making materials they suspected were used in the attack on the Marines.

    The soldiers took a local man who they believed was responsible for the materials into custody and brought him to the army base, from where he was later released.

    It is unclear if this was because there was insufficient evidence to detain him. Military documents state that Golsteyn and another soldier returned the man to his home but instead of releasing him the major fatally shot the man and buried his body.

    They also claim that hours later Golsteyn dug up the victim's remains and burned them in a disposal pit.
     
  4. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    Plenty of Americans are imploring Trump to pardon this "war hero" (a term they're using copiously).
     
  5. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    Seems quite a low bar to get that title. Still it'll make people like Trump which is what it's really all about.
     
  6. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    Is he a war hero?
    On Feb. 20, 2010, Golsteyn coordinated numerous airstrikes and repeatedly braved enemy fire after launching a mission to kill a Taliban sniper who nearly hit a nearby Marine, according to a military summary of his actions. He later was awarded the Silver Star for valor, and the Army was considering upgrading the award to the Distinguished Service Cross — one step down from the Medal of Honor — when the allegations against Golsteyn emerged.
    Those are the 3rd and 2nd highest awards for bravery you can get in the US army, so yeah - war hero sounds right to me.

    Why'd he do it?
    The accusations center on actions that occurred two days earlier. Two Marines — Sgt. Jeremy McQueary, 27, and Lance Cpl. Larry Johnson, 19 — were killed and others were wounded by a garage door booby-trapped with explosives, prompting a search of nearby homes in which Golsteyn’s unit found bombmaking materials and a suspected bombmaker, according to the results of an investigation released to The Washington Post through the Freedom of Information Act in 2015.

    Golsteyn later recounted during his CIA job interview that the U.S. troops detained the man and brought him back to their base. While detained, the suspected bombmaker unexpectedly crossed paths with an Afghan tribal leader with whom Golsteyn’s team was working. When the leader expressed fear for his life, Golsteyn said, he grew concerned about the consequences of letting the suspected bombmaker go, according to Army documents.

    “CPT Golsteyn stated he had no qualms about what he did because he couldn’t have lived with himself if [the suspected bombmaker] killed another Soldier or Marine,” an Army investigator’s summary of Golsteyn’s polygraph test said.
    He wanted to protect his men. If you were one of them, would that would sound like a reasonable motive to you? Would to me.

    Has he been punished already? Yeah. They kicked him out of the Army.
    The Army dropped Golsteyn from the Special Forces in 2015 and stripped him of the Silver Star but ultimately dropped the criminal investigation against him and let him leave the service with military benefits. The service accused him in a June 2015 administrative hearing of violating the law of armed conflict, but a panel of officers determined that was unsubstantiated. It instead recommended separating him from the military for conduct unbecoming an officer with a general discharge under honorable conditions.
    https://www.stripes.com/news/us/tru...ran-golsteyn-who-faces-murder-charge-1.560956

    So why is he being charged now, almost 9 years later? No idea.
     

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