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Should schools teach agriculture to stop rise of 'vegan vigilantes'?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by nomad, May 20, 2019.

  1. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Countryfile presenter Adam Henson has expressed anger over the online intimidation increasingly dished out by militant vegans as he called for agriculture to be taught at GCSE level.

    Mr Henson, who owns a 1,600-acre working farm in the Cotswolds, believes people need to "make informed choices" around food.


    Start at Key Stage 1, I say!
  2. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    I like meat. Bacon, pork, lamb, beef, chicken, venison, turkey, pheasant, are all some of the things I can't afford.
  3. lilachardy

    lilachardy Star commenter

    Shouldn't veganism be taught as a 'difference', the same as we teach about Islam, homosexuality and so on?
    It's not different for everyone.
  4. minnie me

    minnie me Star commenter

    I hate Countryfile . People need to make informed choices about most things in life.I am not a meat eater but I object to the call for schools ( again ) and a ‘ qualification ‘ ( who knew !? ) to address his ‘concerns ‘ . Better he get back to his farming and no doubt fairly lucrative TV appearances
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  5. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    We have incisors and canine (eye teeth) for tearing at meat. Still got mine and they are used regularly:)

  6. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Vegan Vigilantes - they are all nuts.
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  7. CheeseMongler

    CheeseMongler Lead commenter

    I'm not sure how teaching "agriculture" would stop the rise of veganism. Although I'm a meat eater, I can't think of any logical argument against veganism - what "informed choices" do people need to be made aware of?
  8. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    My sister was a vegan for a few years - she actually found it really hard and she went back to being a vegetarian again.
  9. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    A woman in the pub said she thought she recognosed me from the vegan group. I had to tell her I'd never seen herbivore.
    colpee, sabram86, lardylady and 7 others like this.
  10. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

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  11. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Have to confess - we don't eat much meat these days.
  12. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Yes, same here. Pretty much stopped completely.

    Not drinking milk either. Trying plant-based milks and really enjoying them. Cheese is the difficult one to give up.
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  13. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    One more thing to polish a halo over.
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  14. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    The real problem is population growth all the rest is scaremongering blather.
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  15. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    From what I understand, as an occasional viewer of Countryfile, Henson does not own the farm but is merely a tenant farmer, as many still are. The farm is mixed produce with wheat production being significant. I think the animals are a minor part. People should know what they are eating and where it comes from, whatever diet is preferred.
  16. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    He is a Farmer full stop.
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  17. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    Agriculture used to be taught and not so many years ago.
    I agree we should teach where our food comes from, good nutrition and proper cookery, as opposed to 'Food Tech' where you design a ready meal.
    BTW I've never known a healthy looking vegan. They all look pallid and malnourished to me.
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  18. sadscientist

    sadscientist Established commenter

    It has been done. The pros/cons of "organic" farming, for instance, made a brief appearance in the last-but-one (or two?) version of the GCSE Core Science spec. I enjoyed teaching it, but have to confess a personal interest.

    Everything taught in Science lessons seems to go into a little compartment in the pupils' brains called "Stuff I Have To Learn For The Exam", never to be applied thereafter. So probably not the answer.

    Of course there are huge concerns about many aspects of intensive food production. Don't get me started on palm oil plantations. It's a big leap to assume that veganism is the answer, especially for those privileged consumers who have access to exotic imported foodstuffs. That's just a lifestyle choice.

    The whole world knows that...
    Rich People Eat Meat
    Poor People Eat Vegetables

    ...and poor people aspire to do what rich people do.
  19. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    I do not understand your problem, I was contradicting the quoted article. What is wrong with him being a farmer? Without farming we will starve, or be eating US produce at inflated prices loaded with chemicals not approved over here.
  20. lapinrose

    lapinrose Star commenter

    Belle, the subject has changed, yet again, now it's called something like Food Prep and Nutrition. Just what I trained to teach, alas I retired before it came back. However alternative diets are taught, so veganism is included and why people choose. Also included are diets for diabetics, coeliacs, babies and toddlers, ill people, religious reasons for not including items.
    Re Vegans, 2 Tessers I know are vegan and always look very healthy!
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