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Should rapists have any rights over children they father?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by FrankWolley, Nov 28, 2018.

  1. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

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  2. InkyP

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  4. nizebaby

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  6. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    No...
     
  7. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    NO rapist should be allowed access to either the woman they raped or any child they fathered.
     
  8. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Yesterday, a former social services director at Dorset County Council said Sammy Woodhouse’s case illustrated the ‘perverse contemporary fashions and ideologies underpinning the notion that the perpetrators are “victims” and hence deserve equal status to those whom they abuse’.

    This.
     
  9. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    "Should rapists have any rights over children they father?"

    Don't be daft. Next!
     
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  10. InkyP

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  11. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    Signed.
     
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  12. harsh-but-fair

    harsh-but-fair Star commenter

    Have they learnt nothing? Is Rotherham Council fit for purpose?
     
  13. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Clearly not if council workers actively sought out Arshid Hussain and worked to help him get access.

    What a deeply unpleasant mentality to have.
     
  14. Photo51

    Photo51 Established commenter

    They thought it was a legal requirement rather than wanting to implement a social policy.
     
  15. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    So they were too incompetent to do their job, and too stupid to apply commonsense...:eek:
     
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  16. sadscientist

    sadscientist Senior commenter

    Can anyone point me to any evidence that this is what actually occurred?

    As I understood it, the mother applied for the boy to be taken into care, and the Council were obliged to notify everyone with an interest in the child, including the biological father. The dispute is that this should be only those with parental responsibility. (Obviously not the father in this case).
    Has there been any question of him requesting, or being encouraged to gain, access?
     
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  17. Photo51

    Photo51 Established commenter

    The authority could have applied to have the obligation to contact the father removed by a legal application. They were unaware of this.
     
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  18. emerald52

    emerald52 Star commenter

    This would never have happened since the judge in the family court has to put the best interests of the child first when granting access.
     
  19. InkyP

    InkyP Star commenter

    This is what the child's mother says:

    My name is Sammy Woodhouse. I was a victim of emotional and sexual abuse as a child, as part of the Rotherham abuse scandal. I decided to speak out to help expose what was happening to me and 1400 others children who were abused and failed.

    After rebuilding my life, I was made to relive the trauma again last year when the courts said my abuser Hussain could seek visits with my son.

    Just two years ago Hussain was found guilty of 23 child sex offences and is currently serving a 35 years prison. How could the courts not see he is a danger to me and my child? I can’t bear to think of him near our family.

    That’s why I’m calling for a change in the law, a simple amendment to the Children’s Act 1989 that would ban any male with a child conceived by rape from applying for access/rights.

    I’m not the only one this has happened to. Rape victims like me around the UK are having to share access of their children with the men that raped them. Some women are even having their children removed and custody given to the rapists. This is putting children and women at risk and is extremely distressing.
     
  20. Summerhols6

    Summerhols6 Occasional commenter

    This is the perhaps one of the craziest examples of how our country and perhaps part of the Western World has degenerated into ********! The idea of this totally ignores the crime. In parts of the USA the perpetrator would face the Death Penalty. I'm not an advocate of this but this tells you the seriousness of this crime. To have one stance that Rapists should be put to death and the other that the poor misunderstood blighter can see their child tells you how messed up this world is of ours.
     
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