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Should Labour now come out for a rejection of Brexit?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by red_observer, Nov 10, 2017.

  1. red_observer

    red_observer Lead commenter

    Very hard as I haven’t said it. You have an unhappy knack of meming accusations up. Quite an expert in fact. Many Brexit voters are racist. Many socialists voted Brexit in perfectly good democratic grounds.
     
  2. red_observer

    red_observer Lead commenter

    It’s like trying to debate with a Sun reader. Not very challenging.
     
  3. red_observer

    red_observer Lead commenter

    I accept New Labour betrayed the working class but sorry any working class person voting for those two parties has lost leave of their senses.
     
  4. red_observer

    red_observer Lead commenter

    Labour is a clear alternative to these incompetent vile Tories. Labour has to attract the middle class vote as well so I don’t quite see your logic.
     
  5. red_observer

    red_observer Lead commenter

    Compared to climate change deniers?
     
  6. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    I'd rather they didn't.

    I'm one of those pesky Labour-member Brexit-voters.

    And middle-class.

    So that's two strikes against my name. In my defence I can submit only that I pass the GCSE threshold. Or 'O' level as I so pedantically prefer to call my qualifications (1971).

    So I have perhaps a third of a right to an opinion? If I may be permitted by the arbiters of Labour-credibility to say even as much as this?
     
  7. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Lead commenter

    NO! Labour needs to be fighting the middle classes. It's the middle classes climbing the greasy pole that is ruining our country and depriving the poor of decent homes and jobs.

    A Labour party protecting the rights of cleaners, labourers, check-out staff: people on weekly wages. Not middle class numpties like Corbyn in his million pound house with his salary four times that of most working class people.

    Corbyn is a middle class twit from a monied background. He's just angry at his dad. These Labour party members seem to think it is something to do with demos and protesting. It's about people who get their hands dirty every day through their difficult and low paid work -not middle class students and prats with kids in strollers.
     
  8. red_observer

    red_observer Lead commenter

    Lol!!!
    I like your posts so you pass...:)
    I’ve never said all Brexiteers are racist.
     
  9. red_observer

    red_observer Lead commenter

    As Benn said it’s not where you’re from is important but where you are going...
    Personal attacks on Corbyn reveal a barren level of debate.
     
  10. red_observer

    red_observer Lead commenter

    Do we have any industry these days? I think you may have been left in the 1970s...
     
  11. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Cheers, brother!

    Maybe one day we'll get to share thoroughly proletarian beer and sandwiches by the Grand Union Canal whilst rejoicing over the scrapping of charitable status for the likes of Eton.

    Maybe.

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  12. red_observer

    red_observer Lead commenter

    Never say never!
     
  13. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Lead commenter

    I'd be very surprised if Corbyn cleans his own house or has ever worked for minimum pay. What does a middle class career politician know about real struggle? It's all second-hand news for him. He's just an agitator who is angry at his dad. Just a plummy-voiced backroom boy constantly accompanied by his Momentum advisor. Walking about together like he's his rent boy.
     
  14. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    I don't think you have to have drowned to know that drowning is a pretty horrid thing to experience.

    Nor do you have to have been beaten up.

    Or had cancer.

    Or lost your job.

    You know. To have a conscience or be well-intentioned or commit yourself to not being a greedy bar steward.
     
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  15. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    And what's that?
     
  16. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Good question @Flere-Imsaho

    It's easier to define when you rule people out and see who's left. Or who's Left!

    Not proper Labour if you:
    have a mortgage
    have a car (probably)
    have ever drunk wine
    had your school shoes replaced before they got holes in
     
  17. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    But mad TM is ok?
     
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  18. Mr_Ed

    Mr_Ed Established commenter

    What would that mean for the 8000 civil servants that have been recruited to do the Brexit paperwork? Not to mention the thousands of new border control people and ship builders who are (secretly) being employed, to put into place the means and systems to control our borders, from 2019.
     
  19. elledriver

    elledriver Lead commenter

    Me too. Have you seen the state of the outside?
     
  20. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    I'm supposed to clean the outside of the house??
    :eek:
     

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