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Should I take this into account or not?

Discussion in 'Headteachers' started by breadmaker, Nov 20, 2011.

  1. breadmaker

    breadmaker New commenter

    Would really appreciate some advice.
    I am observing a yg colleague on Tuesday for PM and I know he has really worked hard to improve his performance by acting on advice, responding to informal criticism and suggestions etc. Ongoing result is much better learning for the children overall.
    Do I take any of this into account when grading the lesson I see on Tuesday or is the judgement to be based solely on what happens in that hour?Thanks for any replies.
  2. strawbs

    strawbs Established commenter

    I would hope he was!!
  3. littlerussell

    littlerussell New commenter

    I'm not normally someone who comes along and flames people on here, but ...
    How much training have you received to observe lessons?
    I can't imagine how anyone with a secure grounding in the OFSTED grading system could possibly ask this question. The grading is based on <u>the amount of progress children made during the lesson</u>, benchmarked against how much might have reasonably expected.
    I cannot see how there is any room for maneouvre in this judgement ... either the children make progress, or they don't. Someone who doesn't understand that shouldn't really have been put in a position to make a judgement on another teacher's lesson, let alone one who would appear to be potentially needing support.
    Even if your judgement is lower than the teacher might hope, you can, of course, use the write up to identify where the teacher has been successful in improving his practice.
  4. greta444

    greta444 New commenter

    If he's anything like the young male colleague I worked with a while ago, I wouldn't just be observing the children!![​IMG]
    Is that sexist? Don't really care, he brightened up all our days for a while.
  5. mickeyforpresident

    mickeyforpresident New commenter

    To provide a more reasoned response for you (flame me down if you wish!!!) I would consider both options, which I do for a member of staff currently in informal stages of capability. The lesson has to be seen in isolation; i'm not sure if OFSTED grades are that useful, but should be based on the lesson, progress within the lesson being key. However, I see no reason why you can't add some narrative onto the crit about the overall positives of this colleagues performance to date; if there is an action plan for him, maybe reference this too!

    Hope this helps.
  6. Sexist? No. Unprofessional, worrying and a bit creepy? In my opinion, yes.
  7. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    No, you're wrong, brookes.
    It's also very sexist.
  8. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Ye gods! I know there are quite a few HTs who are so in awe of Ofsted that they'd bend over and moon in front of the entire Governing Body if an inspector required it, but this teacher is being observed for Performance Management purposes.
    Sometimes I think that the country will end up with no teachers at all given the combined weight of overly nervous heads, the current government and OFSTED. No matter - when all the teachers have gone it will be down to heads to take over full-time classroom commitments.
  9. breadmaker

    breadmaker New commenter

    Thank you
  10. littlerussell

    littlerussell New commenter

    The OP is asking for specific advice as to 'grading' the lessons. She is not asking for advice on observing the lesson against the teacher's personal targets.
    Putting aside the fact that it is relatively unlikely that the school have invented their own grading system and are most probably using the OFSTED one, any grading is going to be based around what happens in the lesson and with particular reference to the pupils' learning.
    To suggest that these may be flexible in some way based on the past performance of the teacher implies that the OP is not secure in making judgements on a lesson. I would hazard a guess that she has been dropped in at the deep end by her SLT without proper training on how to make such judgements.
    This is not good for her (lack of professional development), nor for the teacher who is potentially going to have something on his PM record which may or may not be a fair evaluation of his lesson.

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