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Should I give up?

Discussion in 'Jobseekers' started by gemzyj, Jan 24, 2011.

  1. I qualified in 2007 and took some time out to get a full time wage, pay for house etc and didn't want to count on supply. I worked during that time as a Manager for Children's play centre. In 2009 I began day by day supply which was great at first but has been drying up massively lately. I always get positive feedback from school I'm in and supply agencies say they've never had anything but a glowing report. Only problem is I still haven't had a chance to complete that elusive NQT year and long term supply is becoming as rare as permanent positions. With a mortgage and 16 month rule hanging over my head I really don't know what to do. I love teaching, it's been my first choice career since before I can remember. At the moment I'm looking for any alternative employment in any area working with children and possibly funding additional qualifications. It just seems like such a waste of my desire, ambition and skills as a teacher though. What should I do?
     
  2. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Oh dear, so hard for you! This really gets me upset and angry on behalf of people who have so much that they want to give, but can't.
    Can you give us some more information?
    Area you live - can you move.
    Primary or Secondary.
    Subject specialisation (if secondary).
    That will help to give some advice.
    ____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    The next Workshops I'm doing that still have vacancies are on Sunday 13th and Friday 25th February. There is also a specialist Workshop for applications to SLT on Saturday February 19th.
    Go to http://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storyCode=6060678 for more details of these and other seminars.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  3. Hi Theo
    I live in North West, Merseyside area but close to Chester. Tied into a mortgage at the moment so not able to move out of area for a while unless by some magical miracle I get a windfall or free housing.
    Primary trained teacher-English, History, ICT and Drama strengths.
     
  4. I really feel for you - I'm in exactly the same position, only I have already used my supply. I'm currently doing some private tutoring to support me while I kick start my career (I qualified in 2006 and have have 4 years out, have wanted to teach since the age of 6 - and haven't done NQT either!!). I'm looking for secondary now though, as opposed to primary as there is too much competition for primary in my area!
    Sorry, I don't have any further advice - but don't give up!
    Good luck x
     
  5. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    General information about the teaching market can be found here:



    The state of the teaching jobs market - questions answered by John Howson


    It doesn't mention the Chester area, but that is one of the areas where there have been a lot of Primary PGCE graduates who have not been able to get jobs. So there is a lot of competition there.

    You will have to decide, but I'd give it a go. After half term there will be a little rush of teaching jobs, you might get lucky. Here is my advice for possibly getting that teaching job.1) Ensure
    you know about all the possible jobs. Do JobAlerts on TES to get early
    info on jobs advertised here. Look on Local Authority websites - especially Liverpool. Don't ignore independent schools - they can
    usually do NQT induction - check out the Independent Forum Welcome
    Thread for more info.
    2) Keep in touch with schools. Try to do supply,voluntary work, even CS and TA is good.
    3) Ensure that you get and follow
    the best possible advice on writing your application. Free advice here
    in the clickables in the Welcome thread had helped loads of posters to
    get jobs. Check out all the tips there, and consider coaching
    sessions, this is expensive when on a one a one-to-one basis, but might
    be a worthwhile investment - see details below.
    4) Make sure
    you keep up to date with what's happening in schools, as the 2011 cohort of NQTs will be starting job seeking any time now.
    I would say that above all, you need to work hard on your application. To get your
    application as effective as possible, read the advice inside the Welcome
    thread. Lots of posters have found it gets results. It's free advice,
    and it works!
    Dear Theo: Executive summary works- I have an interview
    The benefit of an executive summary
    taking Theo's Advice

    Best of luck



    ____________________________________________________________

    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.

    The TES Careers Advice
    service runs seminars, one-to-one careers and applications advice,
    one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.

    I shall be doing Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contributing to the Job Application Seminars over February half term. We shall be looking at application letters, executive summaries and interviews. Contact advice@tes.co.uk for more details.

    Look forward to seeing you then!



     
  6. Thanks Theo. I am still doing supply when I can get it but am also doing support work in nurseries and a few creches on the quiet days. I try to keep abreat of all developments to support me in this career and have been using ES for all of my applications. I'm wondering if the issue is the lack of Head for a reference. As a day by day supply teacher obviously I'm not observed teaching and not able to get teaching reference from a Head. I was wondering if it is day by day that's my problem really as I'm not required to plan and assess (although I've been to a few schools where I've been expected to do this out of the blue). I've found a couple of Maternity jobs in my area and two permanent (nearly had a heart attack when I saw them) but am concious that there is some glaring problem. Should I explain my day by day supply and career gap at the application stage?
     
  7. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    Yes.
    A basic rule is: don't leave anything for them to wonder about - they'll probably draw negative conclusions!
    So be up front about everything, although there's no need to go into great detail.

    ____________________________________________________________

    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.

    The TES Careers Advice
    service runs seminars, one-to-one careers and applications advice,
    one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.

    I shall be doing Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contributing to the Job Application Seminars over February half term. We shall be looking at application letters, executive summaries and interviews. Contact advice@tes.co.uk for more details.

    Look forward to seeing you then!




     
  8. Thanks Theoyou've been a great help and have reignited some of my optimism. I'll give this school a call tomorrow and arrange a visit (and also check they're accepting NQT's) and I'll make sure I cover all bases with my application letter without waffling about it.
     
  9. Have you tried asking? I used the head of a school where I did day to day supply for a reference - she had never observed me but was very happy to give me a reference. You must ask permission but if you do a lot of supply in a school the head may be able to say quite a lot about you.
     

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