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Should children (under 16s) "study"?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Eureka!, Feb 25, 2016.

  1. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    I say no. Children should learn good numeracy and literacy through lots of practice - and any thing else they might show an interest in - playing an instrument, for example.

    "Study" - the very word sends shudders down my spine!

    I suggest that the things children are made to study are RIDICULOUS.
     
  2. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    Don't tell me
    You'll be especially disturbed by ox-bow lakes
    Again
     
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  3. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    Did you never study to be what you are.or were you walking along and sort of stumble into it?
     
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  4. Lascarina

    Lascarina Star commenter

    What do you mean by 'study'?
     
  5. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    I have "studied" very little computer programming, but I have practiced it an awful lot.

    I have never studied writing, but I do quite a lot of that on here, and I'm reasonably good at that too.
     
  6. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    Get given subject content to learn and then get tested on it.
     
  7. Dragonlady30

    Dragonlady30 Star commenter

    Hmmm!! My definition of 'study' is slightly different. It would include independent research, leading the student into a deeper knowledge of the subject. Learn and then get tested sounds more like the education 'Payment by Results' so beloved in the 18 hundreds.
     
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  8. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    You're possibly confusing both activities, the last certainly, with typing.
     
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  9. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    But you haven't said whether children should do it @Dragonlady30 !
     
  10. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    I know that function; anec(data).
     
  11. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    Tricky to learn a foreign language without some 'study' (in your sense) - you know, vocab, verb tenses etc.
     
  12. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Hard to put up shelves efficiently without some study of number and units.
     
  13. Lascarina

    Lascarina Star commenter

    Everyone should do it, whether they are to be tested on it or not. My little grandboy is a late reader and everyday he attempts to learn to recognise words. That is 'study'.- ie the effort to concentrate to learn something.What's your quibble with that? Would you not agree that it would be useful for him to learn to read?
     
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  14. Eureka!

    Eureka! Lead commenter

    My incy little quibble is with what the education system makes children study.

    Learning to read is NOT generally regarded as study in this sense. Nor is putting up shelves :rolleyes:
     
  15. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    I think we over assess students usually at the expense of learning time and experience.
    Too much time and effort on how to pass exams/assignments and not enough teaching and learning.
    My comments are based on 27 years FE teaching experience, so, School Teachers 'stay calm', I leave comment on schools to the experts.
     
  16. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Oh @Lascarina!

    Don't get me started on the teaching of reading! Poor lamb. I'd say we're really poor at helping kids learn to read.

    You note that I don't say we're poor at TEACHING reading. I don't much care about that. I worry about children LEARNING to read. We're not at all good at giving them the opportunities to do that in ways which suit their infant brains.
     
  17. lexus300

    lexus300 Star commenter

    Being older than some on here can I point out that in 1953 when I started at infant school most new starters could already read (up to a point), count into double figures and tie their shoe laces. What is the state of play now?
     
  18. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    Is you problem the content or the act of studying? Specifiy which and then define what you mean by "study".

    Children "study" stuff all the time. I have a nephew who "studies" Dr. Who by learning all sorts of dull ***** interesting facts about the planets, aliens and merits of different sonic screwdrivers. He revises information constantly and recites it enthusiastically to anyone who will listen. Aside from the mind numbing tedium of listening to him, why would you prevent him from doing it?

    One man's oxbow lake is another man's sonic screwdriver.
     
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  19. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    So the objection is that the content is given? And yet you want to "give" literacy and numeracy content. Meh. You're just arguing to impose a curriculum you favour not any real educational revolution.
     
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  20. lunarita

    lunarita Lead commenter

    @Eureka!

    Assuming you're right and the under-16s shouldn't "study", how do you envisage child care working?
     

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