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Shooting in New Zealand

Discussion in 'Personal' started by vinnie24, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. vinnie24

    vinnie24 Lead commenter

  2. vinnie24

    vinnie24 Lead commenter

  3. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    40 people so far... horrifying. Hope they catch the scum.
     
  4. A_Million_Posts

    A_Million_Posts Star commenter

    It's appalling. So many people dead and so much fear and anxiety.
     
  5. lrw22

    lrw22 Established commenter

    Has put Brexit into perspective for me this morning. Suddenly, doesn't seem quite so significant as I thought it was.
     
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  6. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    Awful news.
     
  7. primarycat

    primarycat Star commenter

    It's horrific.
     
  8. MAGAorMIGA

    MAGAorMIGA Star commenter

    Sounds like it was a gang rather a deranged individual. A whole group of monsters out of their tiny minds with hatred and fear, it doesn't bear thinking about. Definitely some groupthink here, by the sound of it.
     
  9. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    I have a cousin in NZ (thanks to Facebook, I know she's OK). Having been in Christchurch just over 3 years ago, I'd never have guessed that this lovely - though damaged - (by the earthquake) city would join the roll call of other cities scarred by terrorist attacks.

    Whether the attackers jihadists or extreme right wing haters, it matters not a jot. They are all scum. :mad:
     
  10. vinnie24

    vinnie24 Lead commenter

    That is precisely why they chose Christchurch, to let the world know that nowhere is safe.

    Not even New Zealand.
     
  11. vinnie24

    vinnie24 Lead commenter

  12. annie2010

    annie2010 Occasional commenter

    So desperately sad; heard this on the radio in the early hours.
    My heart goes out to the bereaved, injured and the people of Christchurch.
    Sadly, nowhere is safe, even countries regarded as quiet and peaceful.
     
  13. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    monicabilongame and sparkleghirl like this.
  14. fraisier

    fraisier Occasional commenter

    Interesting ITW an hour ago on BBC1 of Dr Paul Buchanan (a former intelligence and security analyst, a US citizen permanent resident in New Zealand) who was saying that Christchurch has been a well-known local (in New Zealand) hotbed of neo-nazi and white supremacist activity for quite a while now but nothing was done by the authorities to protect ethnic and Muslim minorities, it was all swept under the carpet (as authorities usually do, this is certainly not confined to New-Zealand!). Buchanan was saying that there’s been a number of incidents in a recent past between those neo-nazis/white supremacists and minorities but that these incidents were downplayed by the authorities.

    I’ve never been to New Zealand, I know very little about the country, I have no idea how right he is on this issue but I thought that was interesting as it may shed some light onto why it happened in that particularly city.
     
  15. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    Interesting.

    But the main terrorist was from Australia (I've read) not NZ.
     
  16. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Saw this from my NZ cousin:

    [​IMG]
     
  17. vinnie24

    vinnie24 Lead commenter

    Christchurch is a hotbed for neo-nazi elements. There are few Muslims there. It is usually Chinese immigrants to the country that are on the receiving end of their hatred.
     
  18. fraisier

    fraisier Occasional commenter

    @FrankWolley

    Was he a resident at all in NZ? Even if he was a visitor to NZ, he must have known the local neo-nazi milieu pretty well, it's unlikely he chose Christchurch randomly, unlikely either that he acted alone without local support. (The 2015 attacks in Paris - Charlie Hebdo in January and Bataclan in November - for instance were carried out by "Franco-Belgian teams", or people with strong connections with Belgium and Brussels in particular - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brussels_ISIL_terror_cell - as this is where salafist and wahhabist fundamentalism started in Europe in the late 1970s and developed and thereafter in France and elsewhere in Europe).
     
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2019
  19. fraisier

    fraisier Occasional commenter

    Interesting. That confirms what Buchanan was saying (although he didn't mention the Chinese community in particular but they would also most certainly be targets too).
     
  20. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    From what I read he comes from northern NSW & is an Australian citizen. Whether he was resident in NZ or a visitor, I don't know.

    NB

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...four-people-witnesses-say-heard-20-shots.html


    PS

    Whether or not there are many Muslims in NZ is, perhaps, irrelevant (there are at least 2 mosques in Christchurch), NZ is a multicultural country due to its Maori population, as any visitor notices.
     

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