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Sharing of own resources / unfair work distribution

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by natalielonglegs, Jun 3, 2019.

  1. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    Rules of thumb, gleaned from experience:

    1. Those who bang on about sharing resources usually mean others sharing with them, not the other way around.

    2. Getting in an enthusiastic young teacher on a temporary contract is a good way of getting a new course set up. All the hard works gets done, the poor sap can then be shown the door, and the manager gets the credit.
    khru, agathamorse, saluki and 3 others like this.
  2. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    Not true for me, and my more experienced colleagues when I was working. One job I took on voluntarily during gained time, even before I had a TLR, was sorting electronic systems on the department's shared drive, so I know how much people produced. Perhaps the willingness to share was one of the reasons why we were a happy department.
    Lara mfl 05 likes this.
  3. Jolly_Roger15

    Jolly_Roger15 Star commenter

    Good for you, @Piranha. I wish more had your attitude.
  4. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    I’ve always shared everything. If I save a colleague a bit of time and hassle, all the better.

    The way that some people believe a few PowerPoints - on topics that a 1000 other people have already made PowerPoints on - are so valuable, and worth secreting away like the Crown Jewels, amuses me.
  5. HolyMahogany

    HolyMahogany Senior commenter

    Going back to the OP - they haven't actually said that they are unwilling to share resources in principle but that they feel they are being forced to share with a colleague who has not made any contribution of their own and who is paid more than they are.
    There will always be people who take a lot and give very little, that's life. I think the OP has every right to express their concerns and anger and needs the support of a good line manager to help them work through this.
    Also the LM needs to help the OP develop their own career so that they feel valued for their own efforts rather than comparing themselves with others.
    There appear to be some issues in this department that need to be addressed, and until this happens resentments will build up.
    I assume that the newer teacher is expected to plan and teach lessons with the same terms and conditions as the OP and the LM can encourage them to develop and share resources. At the very least the newer teacher should have the good manners to thank the OP for the use of the resources they have developed.
  6. hs9981

    hs9981 Established commenter

    Ha ha. Really? I think TE s would ........

    I'll stop. :)
  7. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    But what you describe is just the job! That's what teachers do. Plan, prepare, assess and "support young people". I did all that when I started my last school. And we had a great ASDAN course going until the higher-ups decided to change it to something completely different. So I started that from scratch. Isn't that what we're paid to do?

    I accept that, earlier in your career, it might take you quite a long time to plan and prepare. But that's true of any line of work. You get better/faster as you get more experience.

    You made it look like a lot of work (bullet points above). It was a lot of work. But that's the job. Some people might strike it lucky and walk into a department that's fabulously resourced and has been doing the same thing the same way for a long time.

    Can't you just be pleased you did a good job for the kids and that others are going to benefit? And look at the hours you work and weigh up whether it's the right job for you at the right time in your life. I'm am the last person to recommend you just work your socks off. The labourer is worthy of her hire. You certainly do need to value yourself and your worth but preparation isn't above and beyond - it's CORE. Just don't let it dominate your life!
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  8. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    It probably comes down to our own experience. Somebody who was given stuff early in their career is more likely to be willing to share later on. That might mean that some schools/departments have a culture of sharing and some don't. But that should not somebody trying to start that culture. Of course, it is hard to do in the OP's situation.
    saluki likes this.
  9. Lara mfl 05

    Lara mfl 05 Star commenter

    And indeed what the OP's Line manager might have been trying to re-engender. Though the way they've handled it leaves a lot to be desired.

    I always found if I started to be generous with my ideas & resources, others would start to reciprocate and so it grows, so OP perhaps if you can get past the manner in which you've been asked, that sharing may well be a way forward to engendering a new sharing culture, which can only benefit staff and students alike.
    agathamorse and grumpydogwoman like this.
  10. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    Is this a new thing?

    I seem to remember that many of the famous composers were in the employ of some nob.

    Does that mean the nob owned the music?
  11. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    NOTE to self TES didn't filter that...
  12. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    How is it sharing? When you write reports do you insist on taking them away with you? Why not? Reports are important. But of limited use to your successor. Nobody cares about "sharing" any other paperwork. Only resources.

    Sorry. It just comes over as sour grapes to me. Do the PE and Chemistry teachers lock things away so they are inaccessible? On the basis that they spent hours looking at catalogues and ordering rounders bats and hydrogen peroxide so why should the next teacher benefit from their effort? I do hope not.
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  13. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Star commenter

    Maybe not, but don't mention the Biologists.


    (Oscelot spleen etc)
  14. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    What's a new thing, the employer owns the copyright for stuff produced in the course of employment? No, goes back to at least the foundation of modern copyright law in the Berne Convention of 1886.

    Depends which famous composers you mean I suppose. And how long ago. And if they were "employed" in the sense of 'contracts of employment' as meant by modern employment law. I'd guess they weren't. More likely the nob was their patron than someone they had a formal contract of service with?
  15. CheeseMongler

    CheeseMongler Lead commenter

    As a Chemistry teacher, I lock things away so that they are inaccessible... not sour grapes, just H&S conscious though! The hydrogen peroxide is probably the only exception... that lives in the fridge.

    In terms of sharing (non-consumable) resources though, my philosophy is "help yourself". I'm happy to see someone engaging with what I've produced and I don't mind if that's a student or a teacher. The thing that prevents me from sharing resources is my lack of organisation. HoDs have often said that I need to share more of my resources which I don't have a problem with. Unfortunately they don't seem to appreciate the jumble of gigabytes of random powerpoints, worksheets, videos etc that I'll upload to a shared drive. They seem to always want it all organised into nice neat folders based on discipline, year group, ability, qualification... I'm not doing that.
  16. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Now that some schools will be providing curriculum materials and profiting from it, you might like to consider how much you provide for nothing, especially if you're in one of those schools.

    SEBREGIS Lead commenter

    I prefer to think of it as a workman taking his tools with him from site to site. You wouldn’t think of leaving a hammer or a saw around for someone else to use, they can bring their own.

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    SEBREGIS Lead commenter

    Best department I ever worked in had a policy of ‘one person designs the lessons and resources for a topic they love, then everyone adapts them to their own classes. And everyone does one area of the curriculum.’

    So I did WW1 and terrorism, someone else did cracking resources on the IR, etc etc. Stuff that bored me senseless was brought to life, I got to focus on an area I could make utterly awesome because I had the time and enthusiasm to do it. And I will say, I often used copies of my resources that other people had done for their classes, because they added that secret ingredient I couldn’t quite nail.

    Teamwork. Sometimes I feel it’s a forgotten art.
  19. CheeseMongler

    CheeseMongler Lead commenter

    I get paid. School are welcome to try an eek some extra money out of what I do as long as I don't have to do anything extra/different. Might mean they'd be able to afford some other resources that I can't produce myself.
    But tools can't be copied at the click of a button.

    SEBREGIS Lead commenter

    If you want to see me really unhappy, just show me some of my resources being circulated around a MAT by overpaid ‘subject specialists’...

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