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Shamima Begum's British Citizenship revoked

Discussion in 'Personal' started by DrJay, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. DrJay

    DrJay New commenter

  2. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    Oh dear. Terrible post.
     
    MAGAorMIGA, InkyP, emerald52 and 3 others like this.
  3. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    Yes. There is an edit facility, and you get eight minutes which should be enough. True colours? Blue of course.
     
    nomad likes this.
  4. DrJay

    DrJay New commenter

    Apologies for the typos, I literally stopped on M4 to post by the road side. That’s how excited I was and still am. Long live Sajid Javid.
     
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  5. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    I must say I am slightly puzzled by this. Everything I have heard about Begum suggests that she is a British Citizen and cannot have her citizenship revoked because this would make her stateless which is not legal. Is this not the case? Will not Javid end up with egg on his face when he is forced to accept her back into the UK?
     
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  6. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    That was the question in my head too.

    And if we've done it with her why haven't we done it with returning Jihadi fighters before now? Somehow a trained fighter trikes me as a greater danger than a deluded teenage girl.
     
  7. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Since it is illegal (under international law) for the government to make her stateless, I assume that she must be eligible for another passport. According to Channel 4 it may be possible that the is eligible for Bangladeshi citizenship through her mother who also still holds Bangladeshi citizenship.
     
  8. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    I don't think the current government understands much about the law.
     
  9. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    I see, this seems logical.
     
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  10. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    [​IMG]

    He is what he looks like.

    I don't mean Ray Wilkins.
     
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  11. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

  12. monicabilongame

    monicabilongame Star commenter

    Apparently she has or had dual nationality - British and Bangladeshi - so she hasn't been made stateless, she's just had her British nationality revoked.
     
  13. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    Is it because the other returning fighters returned to the UK without making as much fuss as possible? I don't defend them or their conduct but if no one notices you, it strikes me you have more chance of getting away with stuff.
     
  14. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    A human being stood in front of a building?
     
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  15. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Oh that explains it.
     
  16. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    A disgraceful decision.
     
  17. les25paul

    les25paul Star commenter

    If removing Begum's British Citizenship means she can be prevented from returning to the UK then I will admit to believing to be the correct course of action.

    In my opinion her presence would create a danger to the UK and its citizens, one which we could do without. She might not be capable of direct action but she could still influence and encourage others to do so.

    It is a harsh step but one I feel justified however I hope I can express my approval in a more dignified way then the OP has.
     
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  18. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    It allows the Sajid to make himself look 'ard.

    A big mistake that I am sure he will rue.

    Not least because hundreds of fighters have already been let back in. It takes the media to whip up a storm like this and convince people she's a one woman war machine, while many other much more dangerous people are already back here
     
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  19. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    I think they do.

    I think she is eligible for, rather than currently has, but you may well be correct.

    The mother holds Bangladeshi citizenship. Bangladeshi citizenship is provided primarily jus sanguinis, or through bloodline, irrespectively of the place or legitimacy of the birth.Therefore, any person born to a Bangladeshi woman legitimately or illegitimately outside Bangladeshi soil would still be a Bangladeshi citizen.

    Seems to me that covers it.
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2019
  20. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    Have you just liked the OP? OMG ...
     

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